Raidne, on 20 July 2010 - 12:21 PM, said:
Feminism *used* to get that kind of respect in the states. Now it's just an antiquated word that's kind of a joke.
Anyway, for my money, there are "bad" male characters who are disparaging of feminism, and then there are good male characters who are respectful of feminism. Either way, it sure comes up a lot, which isn't really true in, say, Daivd Baldacci novels. The right has done to the word "feminist" what Tina Fey did to Sarah Palin.
But anyway, maybe this is Larsson's thing as an author then, and not representative of Sweden. For instance, if a leftist newspaper were doing a profile on someone, and that someone was a feminist, but didn't spend all of their time writing academic articles on feminism, would they describe her as such, or not?
Here, I think that would only happen if it was a figure from the heyday of feminism, like Gloria Steinam.
This will be a bit of meandering from the original thread, but with regards to Swedish feminism, there is both a more "mainstream" type that has had a lot of influence over the years, with Nina Bjork perhaps being my favourite among them.
Unfortunately you also have a lot of crazies who have been prominent during the last 15 years. (Check http://en.wikipedia....tiskt_initiativ
for some very downplayed, pretty non drama info
) Rosenberg especially is a bit of a nutjob, and Schyman even more so. They are the sort of people who burn 100.000 SEK just to make a point. Drama for the sake of drama, and it's drawn a lot of negative press.
As you can tell from the article, there was quite a lot of infighting in FI, which I think was really sad. The idea itself wasn't bad, but it was totally overtaken by the crazies when they went ahead and called Ebba Witt-Brattström a "gender traitor". You don't offend the grandmother of Feminism in your country without causing a stir, especially not in the way it was done.
The media and right-wingers happily started a witch hunt of Rosenberg, trying all sorts of things to defame her. To be honest, she should have realised that she brought it on herself to a degree due to being a bit of a crazie, but I don't think anyone could have expected the pure hatred she had to endure. So there sure are undercurrents of anti-feminism in Swedish society, fuelled by the standard so called "newspapers" and other media outlets.
I think FI and the crazies in it has unfortunately made feminism a negative word for a lot of people who were already inclined to distrust it. Although it's generally viewed far more positively than it used to be, and politicians of all colours are calling themselves feminists nowadays, which is a huge step forward. It also permeates Swedish society in a way it sure doesn't in Britian where I live, although equality is high on the agenda here as well, there is another feeling of it in Sweden as being natural and more generally accepted as an everyday occurrence and not something the politicians are showing down our throats. Stuff like shared parental leave, capped nursery fees, free school meals for everyone, legislation promoting equality and protecting from discrimination in the work place, anti-prostitution legislation etc. are telling signs that Sweden is a society that cares a lot about equality and incorporates a lot of feministic ideas. (It's not perfect mind you, and there are several areas where it fails, but overall the signs are pretty clear.)
It's also pretty evident in Larsson's writing that the people who are angry about feminism and equality are stupid bigots. Some manage to hide it, but mostly it comes out in the open quite easily. I think this is an over-simplification of reality, although I am sure some of these type of people exist, and not only in Sweden.
Edited by Lyanna Stark, 21 July 2010 - 04:34 AM.