YoungGriffAgeonVI, on 21 November 2011 - 12:56 PM, said:
I didn't realize Martin was on these forums under the name Errant Bard. Its pretty amazing how you know exactly what would have happened if Robb had not brought Catelyn along with him.
Oh, right, because you're oh so innocent when you claim "if she hadn't been there, it wouldn't have been worse".
And Catelyn is not the deciding factor in all of the characters progressions. Jaime changed because of his sister and the hand he lost.
Funny that, but if Robb get smashed at the Twins (or takes a sea route, whatever), then he doesn't capture Jaime, Jaime never travels with only Brienne in a war-torn Riverlands, he never talks to Catelyn, and he never loses his hand.
Brienne may have not been there when Renly died if Catelyn wasnt.
Right, because Brienne was not among Renly's rainbow guard...
Arya would have been at Harrenhal anyway doesnt matter who was in charge.
Yeah, silly me, without Roose and the Northmen, she would still have done a weasel soup, would still have had occasion to steal maps and horses, would still have gotten the iron coin instead of a third death. Of course.
I dont see how anything Catelyn does affects Beric and company until they find her and Beric gives her the flame of life or whatever the hell the red priests do.
No war in the Riverlands=Beric alone against armies. Same for Nymeria.
As for Bran and Jon, i dont see how catelyn not being with robb would change the ironmen sacking winterfell which was when Bran started his journey in the first place.
Remember Theon, the guy accompanying Robb? He's the one who sacks Winterfell later on. Robb doesn't go on with his invasion plan, Theon doesn't go the Iron Islands.