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[End of Disc One]

That reminds me, did everyone catch the bit about King Elhokar's paranoia?  I know we discussed this years ago but there are new readers now.

[Frey Pie]

I thought it was an excellent book overall. Looking forward to the next. Bought it and read it when it came out so my memory of sections will be a lil fuzzy. I think Brandons plans are monumental but the book sets a solid base for the rest of the series. When you consider Brandons long-term plans it really makes me appreciate that hes taking time from his own plans to finish of Robert Jordans Wheel of Time.

I think the book introduces a number of very cool, and new ideas, especially the magic system. The Shardblades and plates are great, Kaladins powers and his exploration of them, aswel as Shallons and so on are all good hooks. Theres also a few big surprises in the end

I enjoyed the Mistborn, but i think this has more potential as a series

[Mikael]

So, how do you guys feel about his inverted Christ, that guy in white who commits sins for his people rather than taking the blame for his people?

[Castel]

Mikael, on 13 December 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

So, how do you guys feel about his inverted Christ, that guy in white who commits sins for his people rather than taking the blame for his people?

Who the guy at the end who:

Spoiler

Gave up his sword to save those bridgemen?

What sins did he commit?

Edited by Castel, 13 December 2012 - 06:44 AM.

[Mikael]

Spoiler

Was thinking about that super villian guy who kills for whoever has that stone or w/e. Been a while, can't remember the name, just remember the whole "I don't want to kill hundreds in minutes, but I have to, after all honor/shame/blabla, I was chosen by my people to perform these things so that they don't have to do bad things"

[Winter's Knight]

Mikael, on 13 December 2012 - 07:13 AM, said:

Spoiler

Was thinking about that super villian guy who kills for whoever has that stone or w/e. Been a while, can't remember the name, just remember the whole "I don't want to kill hundreds in minutes, but I have to, after all honor/shame/blabla, I was chosen by my people to perform these things so that they don't have to do bad things"

Spoiler

Szeth is serving a punishment, not sinning for his people.

[Rhom]

Got my copy of WoK signed last night at the Memory of Light signing in Lexington.  I had just a second to talk to Brandon as I went through the line and he said that he's 40% done with the second book and he plans on being done by the end of the year.

That man surely does churn out some pages!

[OwaynOTT]

Rhom, on 12 January 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

Got my copy of WoK signed last night at the Memory of Light signing in Lexington.  I had just a second to talk to Brandon as I went through the line and he said that he's 40% done with the second book and he plans on being done by the end of the year.

That man surely does churn out some pages!

Maybe he should slow down a bit and do a bit more of the editing/rewriting process. He has admitted himself he dislikes that part.

Really looking forward to the second book. Hopefully it isn't as bloated as the first. When did page count equal epic?

[Frey Pie]

OwaynOTT, on 12 January 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Maybe he should slow down a bit and do a bit more of the editing/rewriting process. He has admitted himself he dislikes that part.

Really looking forward to the second book. Hopefully it isn't as bloated as the first. When did page count equal epic?

If its a good book what does the page count matter? Theres a certain amount of movies where i look at my watch and hope it wont end. Same goes for some books. Way of Kings was a very strong start to a series IMO

[OwaynOTT]

Frey Pie, on 12 January 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

If its a good book what does the page count matter? Theres a certain amount of movies where i look at my watch and hope it wont end. Same goes for some books. Way of Kings was a very strong start to a series IMO

I agree it was a good book. Been a while since I read it so I can of point to examples of how it could possibly of benefits from a bit of a trim. Must read it again and find out.
It was indeed a good start to a series and as I said I'm eagerly anticipated the second.

Regards page count. It sometimes seems that fantasy books can only be epic when they come with massive page counts, which can sometimes lead to unnecessary filler. That's there's a trend developing towards bigger books.

Eye of the World, great hung and dragon reborn all clock it at under 700 pages. Only once again does a book in the series do that and that was path of daggers, which is considered as only half a book. WoT is a series that can really be accused of unnecessary bloat. It debatable that the 3 book split was needed as well.
A game of thrones and clash of kings both also under 700 pages. Next three do not and the last two wouldnt exactly be considered the best in the series there.
Kings Dark Tower series encounters a similiar trend.
Nothing exactly wrong with big books but some of them could really do with serious trimming. The more power the author gets when they gain success seems to lead to larger and less focused books. Indulgence.

Mark Lawerence's two thorns books both well under the 700 mark. Abercrombie's whole trilogy not much longer than Dance of Dragons. Scott Lynch's two books of the bastards series again under 700 pages.
Shorter books usually lead to better reads.

[Shryke]

I don't know how anyone could consider WOK a strong start. For all the interesting elements, it was bloated and full of truly awful prose.

[kingofashes]

Man it was probably a bad idea reading this book. I really enjoyed it but I'm also 1 book into the Malazan book of the Fallen, two books into the Blade Itself, waiting for asoiaf and the Kingkiller trilogy and I'm re-reading the WOT from the very start. Also have just finished the prince of thorns... I think I've got at least a couple other series to read aswel.

I really should start reading novels that aren't part of a five book series but a start middle and end in the same damm book :-) ah who am I kidding I love it really

[ptoss1]

So you all saw the Kharbranth King reveal at the end? I didn't.

To those who say Kaladin is godmode: Szeth is way more godmode.

Shallan has a Shardblade. WTF?

[Maltaran]

ptoss1, on 19 January 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

Shallan has a Shardblade. WTF?

It's pretty obvious that she killed her father, so presumably it came from him.

[Migey]

This isn't related to WoK, but does anyone know whats going on with Sandersons two novellas, Legion and The Emperor's Soul? I looked them up on amazon and they both have some reviews, but they appear to be kindle only and I havn't seen anyone talk about them. Anyone know about it, and if so, is there any way to get my hands on them without buying a kindle? I really want to read them as they both look fascinating, but don't exactly want to get a kindle just for two novellas.

[memmorio]

Read 2/3 of it and got so bored with it that I had to stop.  It seemed well written in parts, but it dragged and always seemed on the cusp of getting better but didn't.

[peterbound]

Frey Pie, on 12 January 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

If its a good book what does the page count matter? Theres a certain amount of movies where i look at my watch and hope it wont end. Same goes for some books. Way of Kings was a very strong start to a series IMO

That's the problem, it wasn't a good book.

[Rhom]

Migey, on 07 February 2013 - 09:37 AM, said:

This isn't related to WoK, but does anyone know whats going on with Sandersons two novellas, Legion and The Emperor's Soul? I looked them up on amazon and they both have some reviews, but they appear to be kindle only and I havn't seen anyone talk about them. Anyone know about it, and if so, is there any way to get my hands on them without buying a kindle? I really want to read them as they both look fascinating, but don't exactly want to get a kindle just for two novellas.

Fairly certain that they had hard copies of both set out at the AMoL signing I went to.  

[peterbound]

Rhom, on 07 February 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:

Fairly certain that they had hard copies of both set out at the AMoL signing I went to.  

How much nerd rage went down at that signing?  Did they answer questions?

[Frey Pie]

peterbound, on 07 February 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

That's the problem, it wasn't a good book.

Meh, i enjoyed it. Its been two years since i read it though so perhaps my opinion would change now. I remember wanting to read the next one straight away though-always a good sign