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[Crazydog7]

I don't know if this is the right forum for this
sorry if it is ruled otherwise.  

I figured this place would be the best place to ask people.  
Now probably I should have known the answer to this question before I bought the machine but how do you check your system specs in Windows 7?  

I'm a Fallout Freak so I got New Vegas today took it out of the box and went through its insanely long install process and fired it up.  

It crashes immediately upon launch.  This happened all the time Fallout Three as well but it at least let me start the game.  

So might the problem be something with Direct X?  Or is my graphics card out of its range?  

Any help anyone could offer with this would be appreciated.

[Xanrn]

Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Information.

As for the rest not sure, apparantly it doesn't like Nividia cards very much. But I am not paying much attention to avoid major spoilers till Friday.

[Crazydog7]

OK still no luck.  I switched from Nivida to Radison so I wouldn't have to go through this crap.  

Well.  Thank God for Amazon guarantees

[Inigima]

Radison?

Do you mean Radeon, ATI's line?

In general, make sure drivers and DirectX and shit are up to date and all that.

[Crazydog7]

Sweet Jesus its enough to make me buy a Playstation 3(almost).  How can Starcraft 2 work fine but this one...not so much?  I should have known I was in for more fun with this Oblivion and Fallout crash too but at least they let me in.  

Stream does scan for the latest drivers automatically but the problem is probably some conflict between the old and new drivers.  I know there is a way to completely uninstall the one and leave the new ones in place.  I don't know how to do that for Windows 7.  Any ideas?  

Checking the forums I am far from the only one having these issues.  Its just...they said my card was supported I Wouldn't  have bought the game otherwise.  

So yeah, the trailer looks great I would love to play the game but if I can't no big thing.  In a couple of months someone will have posted all the cutscens on Youtube.

[Renasko]

On the plus side, despite the game's technical faults, it's supposedly one of the few games that can still remain a strong title. Sure wish there weren't any difficulties in experiencing the damn thing, though.

Good luck!

[Jacen]

Crazydog, Steam will NOT update your graphics drivers. It will update things like Direct X, or the game itself, but not graphics drivers. You have to go to your graphics card providers website and download the latest drivers. More than likely that will solve your problem.

[Merentha]

I had a crash on menu-load too.  Restarting my computer helped with that.  In general, manually saving (something is up with quicksaving) and quitting the game causes the problems to go away for a while.

edit:  And when it works, the game is fantastic fun.  Its what FO3 should have been.

Edited by Merentha, 19 October 2010 - 11:56 PM.

[Crazydog7]

Well at least it worked for someone
I found the website

http://support.amd.c...indows_all.aspx

And downloaded the zip file
(Yes, a Zip file in 2010 no less)

And it "installed" but only 2 out of 3 files.  
I wonder what the problem is.  

I'm going to give this a rest for a day or so and devote the time I spent on this crap to filling out job applications.  Good way to put things in perspective.  

The one good sidenote to all of this is I found a shortcut to all of those old XP games that I thought were unplayable in Windows 7.  The autorun doesn't work but manual setup does.

Good for me I can play F.E.A.R again.

[Max the Mostly Mediocre]

Ah, it's the New Vegas technical thread. PC users, take heed: there is currently a (common?) bug with the steam cloud, which basically results in your quick and autosaves being overwritten every time you close the game. So before you close the game, make damn sure you create a real (that is, not quick and not auto) save.

I mean, unless you like repeating things. A lot.

Jacen, on 19 October 2010 - 11:15 PM, said:

Crazydog, Steam will NOT update your graphics drivers.

Well, um, yes it will. If you're using ATI. I don't know if it's automatic, though.

[arrowfan]

Yea can't wait to play this game! I love the vibe and atmosphere of Fallout 3.  Retro-technology and some humor thrown in.  The intro of Fallout 3 was one of my favorites, you start out as an infant!  From the reviews I've read New Vegas has all the vibe + some.

Do you get any error messages (other than the windows: app failed to start)?  Any splash screens at all before crash?  

Here are the step I take when a game doesn't work (before returning it) - obvious stuff but what the hell:

*update drivers, make sure you have the correct updater for your exact graphics card

*try starting game from a different launchers if possible ("launcher", the actual app, from within steam, or from within "windows games")

*uninstall completely, then reinstall

*Don't go tweaking any system settings unless you really know what you're doing!  

*restart comp and try starting game again (if this doesn't work first try do not bother repeating process, its not your comp's fault)

Edit: also look into getting a registry cleaning app if you don't already have one.  They are nearly essential, imo. Registry Mechanic is great.  
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New Vegas uses the same game engine as Fallout 3, so if that worked for you then your comp specs are fine.

New Vegas is known to have a lot of bugs which will be (better be!) ironed out with patches, some of the bugs are in game crashes. Of course you're trying to just get to the game itself, but its possible there's a bug mismatch with your particular system. I personally think Steam is the culprit here... lots of issues with that crap client.

Edited by arrowfan, 20 October 2010 - 09:46 AM.

[Inigima]

I didn't know Steam could update video drivers for you, that's really slick. I'm using an nVidia card though, so used to them being better. But these days ATI might be outdoing them, especially with nVidia's recent driver issues.

[Kouran]

I am really digging hardcore, having to eat, sleep and drink is a huge plus. Also the fact that stimpaks arnt instant is cool.

[Cocomaan]

This is why I got an Xbox.

But, in order to appease my inner geek, I installed Ubuntu.

I find it stunning that AMD would have drivers for a fairly new video card in a zip file. WTF is that?

[Cuellar]

Worth buying it guys?

I got saturday off (from watching the kid), so need a new game, and was going to play fallout 3 (only got 3 hours into it), but if this one is better, I might as well buy it instead.

[Crazydog7]

Alright before I put this thing in a box and ship it back to Amazon (thank God for small favors) I have one question

How do you access the patches on Stream?

[Merentha]

Crazydog7, on 20 October 2010 - 11:43 PM, said:

Alright before I put this thing in a box and ship it back to Amazon (thank God for small favors) I have one question

How do you access the patches on Stream?

It automatically patches the game for you, provided you are online.  Speaking of patches, whatever the most recent one they put out did, I haven't crashed, had a memory issue, or slowdown.  Give it a try.

[Max the Mostly Mediocre]

Crazydog7, on 20 October 2010 - 11:43 PM, said:

Alright before I put this thing in a box and ship it back to Amazon (thank God for small favors) I have one question

Fun fact. Due to the way steam works, even if you return it to amazon, you'll still own the game.

[Crazydog7]

I'll give it one last shot tomorrow not getting my hopes up.  I don't understand this Stream decision you already have the games for Windows thing set up why do you need an extra level of Streamness?  

I learned my lesson no more buying games new.  

Note to those of you with Windows 7 64 bit this might be an issue for you as well so take heed before you buy this weekend.

[Jon AS]

Crazydog7, on 21 October 2010 - 12:35 AM, said:

I'll give it one last shot tomorrow not getting my hopes up.  I don't understand this Stream decision you already have the games for Windows thing set up why do you need an extra level of Streamness?  

Argh, I can't take it anymore: it's Steam! Because it was created by Valve. Geddit?

Also Steam>>Games for Windows.

And a game made by Obidian using a Behesda engine being bugged on realease? Say it isn't so! Seriously, I'm definitely waiting a few months (maybe even until it drops in price) before getting this.

Crazydog7, on 21 October 2010 - 12:35 AM, said:

I learned my lesson no more buying games new.  

Out of curiosity, what makes you think that buying the game used (which wouldn't be an option for FO:NV anyway as far as I can tell) makes it less likely to suffer from bugs? The only difference is that the company that made it doesn't make any money from used game sales (which is why a lot of companies have started working on incentivising buying games new, or even making resales completely impossible).

Max the Mostly Mediocre, on 21 October 2010 - 12:32 AM, said:

Fun fact. Due to the way steam works, even if you return it to amazon, you'll still own the game.

Wait, are you saying you can return a game to Amazon after having registered it on Steam and they'll refund your money while you can keep playing the game? That does not seem like a very sound business practice.

Edited by Jon AS, 21 October 2010 - 01:10 AM.