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[DaveSumm]

Werthead, on 29 June 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

That's extremely optimistic. I have Christmas 2015 circled, and at the moment even that is starting to look optimistic.

Does anyone know if GRRM was as busy back when he wrote aSoS as he is now? This is still the benchmark that gives us hope for tWoW - he wrote the longest book in two years. He just seems to have a lot on at the moment.

[Zupoleon]

Werthead, on 29 June 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

That's extremely optimistic. I have Christmas 2015 circled, and at the moment even that is starting to look optimistic.

If that's the case, I wonder what happens when the TV series catches up with the books.  Maybe that motivates GRRM to finish the novels in a more timely manner (without sacrificing quality). Let's not forget the extra pressure to meet deadlines now - more popularity in the series = more money on the line = far greater expectations...

[Pope Killdragon]

I never though that the band Winterfell was much good but there is another band called Seven Kingdoms http://www.metal-arc...Kingdoms/108082 that I like.

Edited by TheMountainThatFlies, 30 July 2012 - 08:51 PM.

[Pope Killdragon]

They have two albums. One(the latest one) is titled Seven Kingdoms but doesn't have two much to do with the books. The older one is titled Brothers of the Night and has much more to do, at least lyrically, with the books. One of my favorite lyrics comes from the song Eyes of Summer

Run to the north
Across barren waste
You'll find me inside of your dreams
In haunted woods
Where Others await
And nothing's as safe as it seems

Pretty simple but there it is.

[Lion of Judah]

Thanks for the info.

[History of Westeros]

There is The Sword, who have a song called "To Take the Black".  Great song.

Edited by Azizal, 17 August 2012 - 12:17 PM.

[Lord Liam DarkStark]

2015 is most likely. But who knows he takes forever sometimes. But who can complain perfection isn't easy and the quality takes time to develop and get the layout right so the story flows. 2013 is far too optomistic even though I wish it could happen. The more asoif the better. That's what I like there is an unlimited amount of tales that can be told of this realm.

[Sturn]

Updates needed to the OP (which is an excellent resource):

• There is a 2nd editon of the boardgame.
  
• The TV Series entry needs updated. It appears to be pre-2nd season release.
  
• The RPG has now been out for some time. A 2nd version of the core book has been released due to the TV series.

[direwolf14]

You forgot about The Lands of Ice and Fire Map Book.

http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/0345538544

[Tysha Lannister]

Time to update the THE TV SERIES section.  The 3rd season starts on 3/31/13!

[waaimasjien]

In this interview, posted yesterday, GRRM mentions he has 400 pages of WoW written, with 200 of them still in draft stage. Is that more than he had in his last status update?

Edited by waaimasjien, 08 October 2012 - 03:50 PM.

[Werthead]

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In this interview, posted yesterday, GRRM mentions he has 400 pages of WoW written, with 200 of them still in draft stage. Is that more than he had in his last status update?

He's been saying he had 200 pages finished for some time now (possibly since ADWD was published, indicating they are all or mostly material left over from ADWD rather than all-new material), but the 200 draft pages comment has come up only once before a few weeks ago. The 200 draft pages appear to form the amount of new material for the book he's completed since ADWD was published.

Obviously if TWoW is going to be 1,500 manuscript pages again and he wants it out in late 2014 (I still maintain this is extremely unlikely), then he needs to pick up the pace and, as he notes in the interview, that should be happening soon as his calendar is free of major engagements until well into next year.

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Does anyone know if GRRM was as busy back when he wrote aSoS as he is now? This is still the benchmark that gives us hope for tWoW - he wrote the longest book in two years. He just seems to have a lot on at the moment.

No. But ASoS's writing time is somewhat illusory. GRRM had a large chunk of the book written when ACoK was published (for example, Tyrion's entire storyline in ASoS seems to have been completed before ACoK came out), just as he had a large chunk of ACoK finished when AGoT was published. The first three books are really one large narrative written over nine years (or rather 7.5-8 years spread over a 9-year period, as he worked on a TV show for 12-18 months of that period as well) and carved up whenever the narrative got too big to fit into one volume.

Obviously he was still writing a lot faster than now (that's still one big novel every two to three years), but the whole of ASoS certainly wasn't written in that 18-month-odd gap after ACoK.

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If that's the case, I wonder what happens when the TV series catches up with the books.

The TV series overtakes the books and finishes before the books, basically. They have an outline from GRRM revealing what happens in the rest of the story and will use that if necessary, and of course will call upon hin to help them plot things out as they reach that point and perhaps get George to write key episodes (including, hopefully, the series finale).

But there's no way the TV series is going on hold until the books get done. If they have to overtake and finish first, and we get to see the ending of ASoIaF on screen years before we read it in a novel, that's what will happen.

[DaveSumm]

GOD I hope that doesn't happen. I won't watch it, and I'll have to religiously avoid spoilers including this place, until the books come out. Ugh.

[TyrionsFlagon]

I think they'd start the seasons later. Each season has started in March-ish. They could move season four to summer 2014, and then season 5 to fall 2015, or something like that. I can't see the TV show overtaking the series. Although, I think I'm just lying to myself.

[Werthead]

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I think they'd start the seasons later. Each season has started in March-ish. They could move season four to summer 2014, and then season 5 to fall 2015, or something like that. I can't see the TV show overtaking the series. Although, I think I'm just lying to myself.

Unfortunately, I think you are. There is almost $70 million invested in each season of Game of Thrones, not to mention dozens of actors and hundreds of supporting crew employed by the series. They are not going to start moving schedules around and doing things to jeopardise people's jobs just because of whether or not the books are coming out on a schedule or not.

If GRRM does manage to get TWoW out in 2014 and ADoS in 2017, we should be fine. Either a delay of even a single year over that timescale or the addition of an eighth book would make it impossible to finish the books before the TV series finishes, assuming it goes the distance.

[Pope Killdragon]

Now I'm hoping the series is cancelled after S5.

[R'hllor's Bastard]

Hi, does anyone know where I can buy the Dunk and Egg tales on the droid app market?
When I search the google market, only thing that comes up is a book called Dreamsongs.
Theres also a Kindle app on my phone but Ive never used it.
Is there a book where they are all together?

[DaveSumm]

I think the first story is available as in ebook in Dreamsongs, but the other two aren't. The fourth will be published next year, and then a least a full year after that a collection of all four together, which I assume would be published as an ebook as well. Long wait though, so I'm afraid it's good old paper for now.

[R'hllor's Bastard]

Ah ok, I guess tommorow Ill go out and search for one of those places where they used to sell books, what were they called? Oh yeh, bookstores, there has to be one left somewhere

[DaveSumm]

My local bookstore only has the wrong version of Dreamsongs that doesn't have The Hedge Knight in, I went with Amazon.

Dreamsongs 2, containing The Hedge Knight:
http://www.amazon.co...aw/d/0553806580

Legends 2, containing The Sword Sword:
http://www.amazon.co...0345456440?pd=1

Warriors, containing The Mystery Knight:
http://www.amazon.co...aw/d/0765320487