ShanRawr, on 15 April 2011 - 02:49 PM, said:
Whatever Elodin did to break down the wall oxidized the copper (since it turned into a green web).
Or it could have been oxidized before he knocked it down, I suppose.
Second explanation is likely right. It doesn't take copper long to oxidize. And Elodin spoke the name of stone to break the wall. We have no reason to think that would have any impact on copper.
grinachu, on 15 April 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:
good thought about shaping copper in some way so it cannot be named, that makes good sense.
Shaping seems to be a "lost art." Plenty of Kilvin quotes implying this, showing Kvothe all of the cool stuff that no one can make anymore. I doubt Copper needs to be shaped in order to not be named, since in the present day, they used copper for the Elodin room, and no reason to think that copper was shaped, and some reason to think that it is impossible it was shaped: 1) Shaping lost in present time; 2) If shaping is related to naming and then changing the name, and if copper is naming resistant, it is probably shaping resistant.
ShanRawr, on 15 April 2011 - 06:38 PM, said:
Dremora, I like simple explanations best too. For the most part, I agree with you and that was my initial reaction.
But Kvothe has other barrels in the tavern before the brass ones show up. Why the sudden concern for Bast? Maybe the others have brass too, and it isn't mentioned. If so, they weren't made by the same guy that made the ones that are delivered. It was his first time.
Even if they were the first bought off that guy, that guy clearly knew Kvothe wanted brass ones, IIRC. And zero evidence that Kvothe's other barrels are not brass.
Dremora, on 15 April 2011 - 06:49 PM, said:
Its quite possible that there is a more complicted explintion, but I don't have any idea why brass. I thought maybe its because he's expecting a visit from the Chandrian and maybe brass doesn't rust when they are near, but I can't see why some barrels would be important if they did attack his inn.
Don't buy this. Would think you would want some iron around so you can spot that sign of the Chandrian if they show up. Who cares if they rust a barrel or a door lock? Caring about Bast explanation works and is in character and is a nice subtle touch.