thistlepong, on 15 April 2011 - 09:54 AM, said:
Tell you what, you figure out what's up with copper and I promise I'll figure that out. Cool?
ok I'll give copper my best shot and you do the same with the bottles. I always start by making a list of relevant quotes...
"It was made of a solid piece of grey stone the same color as the surrounding walls. Its frame was eight
inches wide, also grey, and also one single seamless piece of stone. The door and frame fit together so
tightly that a pin couldn't slide into the crack.
It had no hinges. No handle. No window or sliding panel. Its only features were four hard copper plates.
They were set flush with the face of the door, which was flush with the front of the frame, which was flush
with the wall surrounding it. You could run your hand from one side of the door to the next and hardly
feel the lines of it at all."
"In its center, between the untarnished copper plates, a word was chiseled deep into the stone:
"Elodin led me through a long series of hallways to a different wing of the Crockery. Finally we turned a
corner and I saw something new: a door made entirely of copper."
the door didn't even have a handle on the inside, let alone a lock."
"More copper, I
thought. Veins of copper running through the blocks of stone that made the wall."
Wise Man's Fear
"his other hand was hidden by a large round object...I guessed it was his shield....He was hard to do. I got the copper pretty okay here. "
"Lastly he brought out his copper sword, Skyaldrin, and belted"
"Who's ever heard of a copper sword? Copper wouldn't hold an edge. It'd be like trying to kill someone with a big penny"
"iron, fire, mirror-glass, elm and ash and copper knives...the rules of games we play and give us bread to stay away"
he fits the copper key in the iron lock, and the iron key in the copper lock (ok this is a summary-tired from typing up quotes). Please also take this as a reference to Kvothe's thrice locked chest. Obviously it is significant that one of the locks is copper.
My working assumption from the Elodin chapters in NOTW was that copper was somehow nameless or resistant to naming and shaping both. That would explain the following things.
The Four Plate door is protected from being Shaped from without or within. The copper somehow protects the stone from being named and broken.
Taborlin has a copper sword because it is protected from being shaped or named. There is also the other possibility that he had a copper sword because one of the Chandrian had some power over iron but I think this is a better explanation (Q: if copper cannot be shaped or named, how would you get it to hold an edge?)
Second relevant question: how would copper knives protect against the Fae? Iron clearly irritates Bast but he handles the copper lock freely enough. So what difference do copper knives make? Hmm..I don't have an answer for you there.
I am reasonably confident that copper is the metal which cannot be named. That is why Elodin's prison was made out of copper. No other metal was safe. And that should have something to do with the Four Plate Door- after all this was the university where the most powerful namers lived.
That's also why the Amyr carried copper shields . But clearly, copper is a very soft metal which makes it singularly inappropriate for a shield. So why a copper shield? Maybe there's a process for turning copper into an adamantine substance? That would explain the sword and the shield.
Edited by grinachu, 15 April 2011 - 12:49 PM.