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[Book Spoilers] EP104 Discussion


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#21 Cold Hands-Hot Pie

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 08:51 PM

they CAN"T let Petyr tell her this story.
this is the first decision they've made that I REALLY dislike

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 08:51 PM

What was Hugh doing in the joust?  He didn't seem to even be trying to hit the mountain--is that in the books?

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 08:53 PM

the deal with Ser Hugh was that he was incompetent, never should have been made a knight and he didn't have a squire of his own to help him prepare for the joust

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:00 PM

Ok that last scene was just freaking amazing.  What a great episode.  EAsily the best one for me.  Easily.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:02 PM

Another great episode.  Gotten 3 out of 4 of the final scenes right in predictions.

Funny, the opening sequence resolved 3 out of the 5 major complaints we fans have had...

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:02 PM

Seeing Ghost made me happy.

Hearing Ghost made me sad.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:02 PM

View PostCold Hands-Hot Pie, on 08 May 2011 - 08:51 PM, said:

they CAN"T let Petyr tell her this story.
this is the first decision they've made that I REALLY dislike

+1

#28 Xray the Enforcer

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:04 PM

There were some really great scenes in that episode. Very tight, efficient storytelling as well.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:04 PM

View PostChislev, on 08 May 2011 - 09:02 PM, said:

+1

Eh, I don't mind just yet. They're building up Sandor to be a man of mystery and setting up Littlefinger as the guy who has an unhealthy interest in a 15 year old girl.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:04 PM

View PostXenophon, on 08 May 2011 - 08:51 PM, said:

What was Hugh doing in the joust?  He didn't seem to even be trying to hit the mountain--is that in the books?

Yes it was.  He was in the joust and the Mountain killed him.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:05 PM

Fantastic episode. Bryan Cogman did a wonderful job.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:05 PM

My favorite episode so far.  They finally get into some history so I can stop explaining it to all my family and friends.  Seriously, mother's day dinner was a Westeros history lesson tonight!  

I didn't feel rushed for the first time.  I was really happy about the three-eyed crow dream.  I'm glad Ghost made an appearance but you don't AT ALL get the inseparable connection thing which sucks.  I love Sam, Gendry, Hodor, and The Mountain!!!  

I'm happy!!!

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:06 PM

Label me angry at the show creators.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:06 PM

GHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTT!!!

Glad for all the direwolf scenes so the whiners will STFU this week.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:06 PM

Loved every minute--seeing it finally come to life.  But as always, so fast, so freakin' fast!  Tyrion and Bran's saddle, bang, zoom, here and gone.

Yay, Ghost, we got Ghost!  

I like Sam, pitiful, but smart, likeable.

And how about badass Jon?  No emo Jon here...

#36 IheartTesla

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:07 PM

To be honest I wasn't a big fan of the episode as a whole. It was a bit too exposition heavy, but I guess that can't be helped. I guess my biggest issue was with the tourney, it seemed a bit too Ren-faire to me. I wanted to see the spectators a little bit more than three deep....

There were set pieces that I enjoyed though, the last scene at the inn and the Jon/Sam HoYay and whatnot.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:07 PM

Finally seeing Ghost just makes me perplexed that we haven't just had at least some glimpses of him in Ep 2 and Ep 3.  

I need to see this one again to decide what I think.  


I don't love Sam's casting appearance-wise (just not quite what I pictured), but his chemistry with Jon was pretty good.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:07 PM

Sandor doesn't truly interact with Sansa until after the tourney, but even then, they may push it back to when Joffrey has her on the roof of the Red Keep and he treats her more gently than he should.

I was a little sad they gave Littlefinger the back story, but at least they included it. This episode was chock full of book history. A lot of info for non readers to digest.

I loved it. (Shocker, I know.)

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:07 PM

I don't really have a problem with the littlefinger/Sansa convo.  At this point it is so much more important to develop the littlefinger character that they really needed to give him more material.  Plus I thought it was actually a decent way to contrast the brothers in a way that might not have worked if the hound told the story.  They can find other ways to develop that storyline.  Incidentally I'm really likeing Sophie Turner's Sansa, considering I was sure she was going to be a weak point.  Also she is way prettier than I realized in the first episode (same for Cersei).

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:08 PM

Great episode.  Gosh, I love the guy playing Jory.  I wish he would have been cast in a role that, um, stays around longer.

Didn't mind the change to the Sandor backstory. When I realized where they were going with it, I thought I'd mind the change, but it ended up working for me.

All the changes worked for me, even the non-book Viserys bathing scene.

And I *loved* the nearly verbatim final scene (arrest of Tyrion at the inn).

Two enthusiastic thumbs up.