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[Book Spoilers] EP104 Discussion


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#421 herkles

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:10 PM

I believe that the rest of the tournment will be shown in the next episode. I do recall seeing pictures of the melee, and other action so likely the next episode will have more of that.

I also liked some of the forshowdowing in this episode, ie jon talking about how he almost slept with a red-haired woman seems to be a subtle way of indicating towards ygritt later on. when tyrion was speaking of burning ships, indicates towards the battle with fire outside of king's landing((can't remember the name of that battle)). also the scene with sansa and the septa is forshadowing for when tommen does become king, after joferry dies.  so there is some nice forshadowing, I wonder if anyone else caught some other examples

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:15 PM

View Postherkles, on 10 May 2011 - 12:10 PM, said:

I believe that the rest of the tournment will be shown in the next episode. I do recall seeing pictures of the melee, and other action so likely the next episode will have more of that.

I also liked some of the forshowdowing in this episode, ie jon talking about how he almost slept with a red-haired woman seems to be a subtle way of indicating towards ygritt later on. when tyrion was speaking of burning ships, indicates towards the battle with fire outside of king's landing((can't remember the name of that battle)). also the scene with sansa and the septa is forshadowing for when tommen does become king, after joferry dies.  so there is some nice forshadowing, I wonder if anyone else caught some other examples

Jory telling Jaime that he will remember Greyjoy battle till the day he dies (very soon, and pretty much by Jaime's hand)

#423 herkles

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:20 PM

oh, I forgot about that one, that also gave a little clue to thoros. I am hoping we see him in one episode if just to see that fire sword of his.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:27 PM

If they're showing Gregor's joust with the Knight of Flowers, they have to show Beric Dondarrion vs Thoros of Myr - they've name dropped Thoros already and both become important later.

View Postherkles, on 10 May 2011 - 12:10 PM, said:

I also liked some of the forshowdowing in this episode, ie jon talking about how he almost slept with a red-haired woman seems to be a subtle way of indicating towards ygritt later on. when tyrion was speaking of burning ships, indicates towards the battle with fire outside of king's landing((can't remember the name of that battle)). also the scene with sansa and the septa is forshadowing for when tommen does become king, after joferry dies.  so there is some nice forshadowing, I wonder if anyone else caught some other examples
The Battle of the Blackwater ;)

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:28 PM

There was also a neat shout-out to the existence of faceless men by Doreah. (the bathtub scene)

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:32 PM

View PostHyper, on 10 May 2011 - 12:28 PM, said:

There was also a neat shout-out to the existence of faceless men by Doreah. (the bathtub scene)

I LOVED the foreshadowing of that scene for Season 2. I don't think we got foreshadowing of the Faceless Men in the first book did we? I remember the Faceless Men being mentioned as awesome assassins in book 1, but I didn't remember their nifty face changing abilities being mentioned until we saw it.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:33 PM

View PostHyper, on 10 May 2011 - 12:28 PM, said:

There was also a neat shout-out to the existence of faceless men by Doreah. (the bathtub scene)

I forgot about the bathtub scene, or maybe it's more I'm trying to forget the bathtub scene.

it was just kinda...meh, two people getting it on in the bathtub...it just didn't come across as all that great as far as sex/love scenes go.

I wasn't impressed with Mr. Dragon because the whole thing seemed more like a info dump and to make it interesting they made it a sex scene.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:38 PM

View PostMellisandra, on 10 May 2011 - 12:32 PM, said:

I LOVED the foreshadowing of that scene for Season 2. I don't think we got foreshadowing of the Faceless Men in the first book did we? I remember the Faceless Men being mentioned as awesome assassins in book 1, but I didn't remember their nifty face changing abilities being mentioned until we saw it.
It's also setup for next week, when Robert wants to hire them to take out Dany.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:50 PM

Ok, maybe I'm not understanding how feudalism worked/works either in RL or in Westeros, but did anyone else find it odd that Tyrion had to bribe someone to get a room at the inn?  He's the King's brother-in-law (and the heir apparent/presumptive--I never remember which is which--to Casterly Rock), shouldn't the inn-keeper being throwing people out the moment he steps in the door?

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:56 PM

View PostXenophon, on 10 May 2011 - 12:50 PM, said:

Ok, maybe I'm not understanding how feudalism worked/works either in RL or in Westeros, but did anyone else find it odd that Tyrion had to bribe someone to get a room at the inn?  He's the King's brother-in-law (and the heir apparent/presumptive--I never remember which is which--to Casterly Rock), shouldn't the inn-keeper being throwing people out the moment he steps in the door?

Tyrion probably could have pulled rank and forced his way into a room, but unless he did that, I don't think anyone would be strictly obligated to cede their room to him.  No one there is directly tied to the Lannisters, and the throne is in the Baratheons' name.  So despite being an important person, he doesn't really any sort of direct rule over the people there.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:06 PM

View PostXenophon, on 10 May 2011 - 12:50 PM, said:

Ok, maybe I'm not understanding how feudalism worked/works either in RL or in Westeros, but did anyone else find it odd that Tyrion had to bribe someone to get a room at the inn?  He's the King's brother-in-law (and the heir apparent/presumptive--I never remember which is which--to Casterly Rock), shouldn't the inn-keeper being throwing people out the moment he steps in the door?

[pedant mode]Tyrion would be heir apparent, as there's no possibility of him being displaced by a birth higher up the line of succession. An heir presumptive would be someone like the brother of a childless lord - as things are currently he is the heir, but would be displaced if the lord has a son.[/pedant mode]
Of course, he's never publically acknowledged as the heir, because Tywin hates him and wants Jaime to inherit.

And a nice geek shout out when Viserys was naming the dragons, one of them was Vermithrax

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:07 PM

View PostAganerral, on 10 May 2011 - 12:56 PM, said:

Tyrion probably could have pulled rank and forced his way into a room, but unless he did that, I don't think anyone would be strictly obligated to cede their room to him.  No one there is directly tied to the Lannisters, and the throne is in the Baratheons' name.  So despite being an important person, he doesn't really any sort of direct rule over the people there.

Yeah if Tyrion had enough men with him he could have threatened someone to give up their room, but he wouldn't do that.  The king could order someone to give up their room, but it wouldn't be good practice.  The only person I can think of who would do that is Joffrey.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:20 PM

yea, it doesn't seem to be like tyrion to just pull rank when he has other methods at his disposal.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:24 PM

View PostAoife Trevgaryen, on 10 May 2011 - 11:28 AM, said:

No, that's his natural hair colour. He's mentioned before that they thought about dying it for the show, but they liked the way it looked, so they kept it.

Hmm, ok, he had brown hair in the photos I saw (here's one example). I suppose his hair is dyed brown in those photos or perhaps they were shot many years ago?

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:28 PM

View Postherkles, on 10 May 2011 - 01:20 PM, said:

yea, it doesn't seem to be like tyrion to just pull rank when he has other methods at his disposal.

But he uses his Lannister name to get things...Mord, mountain clans, etc.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:33 PM

- Spoiler: There will be a dramatic change in [Hohor's] appearance halfway through the series that will entail a change in his make-up.

Uh... I'm totally blanking on what this is referring to honestly, can anyone refresh my memory?

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:35 PM

View PostCyclone49, on 10 May 2011 - 05:21 AM, said:

Oh, and Hodor's way more older and overweight than I imagined him - I can't exactly see Osha ogling the TV version's naked body.
I never got the impression Osha was ogling Hodor because he had some sort of Adonis body, rather that he is in fact a, ahm, "giant".  No idea if HBO is going to feel the need to show us that or not  :blushing:

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:37 PM

I think those were taken a few years apart. My understanding is that Kristian (who's 35-36) went gray quite recently, and quite quickly.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:41 PM

View PostRan, on 10 May 2011 - 01:37 PM, said:

I think those were taken a few years apart. My understanding is that Kristian (who's 35-36) went gray quite recently, and quite quickly.

Yeah, I guess you're right. Looking forward to his 'transformation' later in the season, though :)

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:45 PM

View PostDurararaFTW, on 10 May 2011 - 01:33 PM, said:

- Spoiler: There will be a dramatic change in [Hohor's] appearance halfway through the series that will entail a change in his make-up.

Uh... I'm totally blanking on what this is referring to honestly, can anyone refresh my memory?

Yeah I have no idea what they're talking about either.