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[SerArthurHeath]

He could be Qorhin Half Hand...

[JeRzy]

Oded Fehr should play Red Viper.
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[red snow]

A friend at work is reading storm of swords at the moment and was discussing the introduction of the red viper (he han't even got to THE scene yet) and he said "I imagine him as Mark Anthony from Rome".

[Ser Yberon]

Doran Martell I always pictured as quite portly as his goute(?) has him wheel chair bound so he doesnt move around too much, so Alex Siddiq for doran I have to disagree. If Al Siddiq didn't have such a kind face I'd say give him the Red viper but he doesn't look mean enough.I'd give Purefoy the part of Euron Crowseye, if the series lasts long enough.

For the Red Viper, its gonna have to be 1 hard looking mo fo, who has a sneaky look to him too. Slender, agile, quick and strong, as he does have to fight the big guy.

Off the top of my head I cant think who it should be. Sorry

[lukahnli]

Obed Fehr would be a bit closer ethnically.  Though he doesn't really carry the sort of flamboyance that the Red Viper has.  Purefoy would be better in that regard.

[Joomy]

James Purefoy in Rome is personality-wise almost exactly how I imagine Jaime. If he had the right looks he would have been the PERFECT Jaime I think. Instead we have someone with almost the right look, almost the right characterisation and almost the right accent =/.

[SerArthurHeath]

Joomy, on 09 June 2011 - 10:51 AM, said:

James Purefoy in Rome is personality-wise almost exactly how I imagine Jaime. If he had the right looks he would have been the PERFECT Jaime I think. Instead we have someone with almost the right look, almost the right characterisation and almost the right accent =/.

YMMV, I think NWC nails Jaime

[Joomy]

SerArthurHeath, on 09 June 2011 - 11:00 AM, said:

YMMV, I think NWC nails Jaime

He's certainly not bad but he doesn't have quite the right cheeky sort of arrogance that Jaime has. The real test is coming up: his conversation with Cat in the dungeon cell and his needling of Brienne. In fact I'm really keen to see the Jaime/Brienne relationship as it will surely be one of the most difficult to portray correctly.

[Werthead]

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I still want Siddig as The viper though   

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I've often favoured Purefoy for the Red Viper, but I agree it could be a missed opportunity to cast a non-white actor in a key, charismatic role if they did that. The issue is that Purefoy is a big name who's carried movies (if not huge ones) and so comes with a price tag attached. He's more expensive now than during Rome, that's for sure. So do you give him a big role worthy of his pay packet and profile, or have him as a special guest star who'll appear for 3 episodes and then depart (if extremely memorably)? The former is more cost-effective than the latter, but the latter is overall less money. But then do you risk losing out on another big actor for a larger role because so much money has been spent on the guest cast?

It's a juggling act. They might be helped that by Season 4 (assuming ASoS goes two seasons) I don't recall many more large, recurring actors introduced (the Tyrells come in during Season 3/ASoS Pt 1, and we lose a significant chunk of the recurring cast at the end of Season 3 which frees up space for more roles in the series), so they may have the time and money to spend on a relatively big-name actor for Oberyn.

[JakePT]

I always pictured the Dornish as looking Middle-Eastern. Not sure if that has any basis in the book, since I have a tendency to forget visual descriptions and invent my own if they're not repeated often enough. So I'd prefer a more Aranic/Indian look for not only the Viper, but the Dornish in general.

I'd love to see Purefoy in the show though. I think hed'd be great as Mance Rayder or Crow's Eye. I'd even think he'd make a great Davos. I'd like to see him do something other than the cocky charming warrior type.

Edited by JakePT, 10 June 2011 - 02:35 AM.

[SerArthurHeath]

JakePT, on 10 June 2011 - 02:34 AM, said:

I always pictured the Dornish as looking Middle-Eastern. Not sure if that has any basis in the book, since I have a tendency to forget visual descriptions and invent my own if they're not repeated often enough. So I'd prefer a more Aranic/Indian look for not only the Viper, but the Dornish in general.

I'd love to see Purefoy in the show though. I think hed'd be great as Mance Rayder or Crow's Eye. I'd even think he'd make a great Davos. I'd like to see him do something other than the cocky charming warrior type.

They are darker in colour at least. Here's what the the woiaf has to say:

"According to Daeron I, who recorded his wars in Dorne, there were three sorts of Dornishmen. There were the 'salty' Dornishmen who lived along the coastlines, which were generally thin and dark, with olive skin and black hair. The 'sandy' Dornishmen lived in the deserts and river valleys, with dark brown skin and tended to wear long, bright scarfs around their helms to keep the sun off. The 'stony' Dornishmen lived in the Red Mountains, large and fair, they still contained the blood of the Andals and the First Men, usually with blond or brown hair and freckles. The salty Dornishmen have the most Rhoynish blood, the stony Dornishmen the least.[2] Dornishmen have a reputation for hot-bloodedness as well. Bastards born in Dorne are given the surname Sand. "

I believe, though please correct me if I'm wrong, that the Green orphans are an example of the salty, the Daynes of the stony and the Martells the sandy (Arianne is decribed as having very brown skin oops, apparently olive skin?), in which case an Indian actor, or maybe middle Eastern would be perfect. That's a lot of scope, but Purefoy doesn't fit into it.

Naveen Andrews springs to mind for Oberyn, if he would do it. I still say the Halfhand for Purefoy, unless he's too young.

[SwordOfTheEvening]

SerArthurHeath, on 10 June 2011 - 07:38 AM, said:

They are darker in colour at least. Here's what the the woiaf has to say:

"According to Daeron I, who recorded his wars in Dorne, there were three sorts of Dornishmen. There were the 'salty' Dornishmen who lived along the coastlines, which were generally thin and dark, with olive skin and black hair. The 'sandy' Dornishmen lived in the deserts and river valleys, with dark brown skin and tended to wear long, bright scarfs around their helms to keep the sun off. The 'stony' Dornishmen lived in the Red Mountains, large and fair, they still contained the blood of the Andals and the First Men, usually with blond or brown hair and freckles. The salty Dornishmen have the most Rhoynish blood, the stony Dornishmen the least.[2] Dornishmen have a reputation for hot-bloodedness as well. Bastards born in Dorne are given the surname Sand. "

I believe, though please correct me if I'm wrong, that the Green orphans are an example of the salty, the Daynes of the stony and the Martells the sandy (Arianne is decribed as having very brown skin oops, apparently olive skin?), in which case an Indian actor, or maybe middle Eastern would be perfect. That's a lot of scope, but Purefoy doesn't fit into it.

Naveen Andrews springs to mind for Oberyn, if he would do it. I still say the Halfhand for Purefoy, unless he's too young.

I was about to say, Naveen Andrews seems much more perfect than Purefoy for the Red Viper.  It would also bring over all the Lost viewers that have yet to discover GoT, so I'll have to second this suggestion.  As for Purefoy, the best suggestion so far is Mance Rayder, as long as he can sing of course.

[lady narcissa]

I quite enjoy watching James Purefoy in just about everything - including some of the crap movies and tv shows he has done recently - so I'd be quite happy to see him in a future GOT episode as any number of characters.  However, he is just about to start filming a pilot for a tv series for NBC (bringing The Saint back to life) and if that gets picked up I imagine his availability for other things would be limited...unless it crashes and burns liks his last NBC show!

[Podrick + Arya = Win]

SerArthurHeath, on 09 June 2011 - 11:00 AM, said:

YMMV, I think NWC nails Jaime

Yeah I agree, the actor playing Jaime right now is perfect. Purefoy would be great as Davos/Halfhand/Renly (I know he's already cast)/Lord Tarly/Mace Tyrell.

[Erekose]

I disagree: Naveen Andrews for the Viper!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004710/

[Taena's Curves]

Erekose, on 16 June 2011 - 08:27 AM, said:

I disagree: Naveen Andrews for the Viper!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004710/

Oh, this Naveen guy is PERFECT!!!!! I love this! Good call

[Taena's Curves]

JakePT, on 10 June 2011 - 02:34 AM, said:

I always pictured the Dornish as looking Middle-Eastern. Not sure if that has any basis in the book, since I have a tendency to forget visual descriptions and invent my own if they're not repeated often enough. So I'd prefer a more Aranic/Indian look for not only the Viper, but the Dornish in general.

I'd love to see Purefoy in the show though. I think hed'd be great as Mance Rayder or Crow's Eye. I'd even think he'd make a great Davos. I'd like to see him do something other than the cocky charming warrior type.

I think James Purefoy is much too....Hmmmm...How can I explain this....? He is too happy and witty to be Davos. Just like you said: Cocky, charming warrior type. Davos needs to be someone more brooding, I think. As Mance though, I agree that he'd be great.

[George Snow]

Lothbrok, on 19 May 2011 - 11:02 AM, said:

Yeah but  Purefoy does insane and dangerous very well, is there anyone lese in the show like that? I still want Siddig as The viper though

GH

[Winterfelon]

No no no - not the Viper.  Any of the other roles mentioned here.  Personally I think he'd make an ace Blackfish.  

[Twelve Angry Nonmen]

ANTONIO BANDERAS IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE RED VIPER

Come on people, how many other short, swarthy Spaniards are there?  He's the only choice.  Javier Bardem is just too tall.