Rodrik of Dorne, on 10 June 2011 - 11:58 PM, said:
I have a few doubts concerning the geography of the northern lands. I think the upcoming book (a World of Ice and Fire) will help me, but maybe some of you guys can do the same.
- First, wheres the Acorn Whater? Is it the river that runs into the White Knife?
- Wheres Ramsgate mentioned in the books? The place is in the HBO map. Who rules over it?
- Is there any estimate of the North's area, in square miles (considering the wall's length of 300 miles)?
I think that House Lake rules over the Long Lake, and that house Woolfield rules over Ramsgate.
Just a hunch. Also if Ramsgate is sworn to White Harbour, it's worth noting that Wylis Manderly is married to Leona Woolfield.
Auska, on 13 August 2011 - 07:00 AM, said:
From King's Landing to either Winterfell or the Wall was 1000 leagues, which is 3000 miles or over 4800 km.
For a merchant ship hugging the coast (and making stop overs at places like the Karhold, Weeping Water, Widow's Watch, Ramsgate, Old Castle)-not flying like a crow, I calculated East-Watch to White Harbour at about 2550 miles.
Werthead, on 08 September 2011 - 07:48 AM, said:
Westeros is the length of South America, not the area. Martin says 'size' as a shorthand, but that is not accurate. Using the Wall as a scale bar, Westeros is almost exactly 3,000 miles from the Wall to the south coast of Dorne. South America is about 4,400 miles long north to south. If we assume 1,400 miles or more of territory north of the Wall, that comparison works. However, Westeros is usually* around 900 miles wide at best, whilst South America is over 3,000 miles across at its widest point.
So Westeros is not the area of South America in size, but the length. If it was area, because of the narrowness of the continent for the most part, the distances between locations would be somewhere beyond ludicrous. As it stands, it's approximately 1,500 miles from Winterfell to King's Landing, which feels about right to me.
* In AFFC the south coast of Dorne is said to be 400 leagues (1,200 miles) wide, which seems difficult to make work. However, if you assume GRRM meant that south coast of Westeros, including the part of the south coast west of the Red Mountains (including Oldtown), it does more or less reach 1,200 miles wide, and is the widest point of the continent.
So by that do you mean travelling in a straight line because if 300 miles=4cm, then 1cm=75 so therefore 13 cm=Distance from Castle Black to White Harbour=75*13=975 miles
because when i printed out the HBO map and traced a ships journey from East-Watch to Karhold (hugging the coast) it was 12.5 cm roughly or about 937.5 miles. Then Karhold to Weeping Water was about 4.5 cm or 337.5 miles. Then Weeping Water to Widow's Watch was about 5.5cm or about 412.5 miles. Widow's Watch to Ramsgate was 3 cm or 225 miles. Then Ramsgate to Old Castle was 5 cm or about 375 miles. Old Castle to White Harbour was 3.5 cm or 262.5 miles... this totalled to 2550 miles.
This makes me wonder whether land would be faster...