Who is the most important non-POV character?
Posted 21 June 2011 - 12:07 AM
Posted 21 June 2011 - 12:12 PM
You can only go by who doesn't have a POV as of book 4.
So I'd nominate her.
Also, Archmaester Marwyn.
Posted 21 June 2011 - 12:29 PM
Edited by Kaitscralt, 21 June 2011 - 12:30 PM.
Posted 21 June 2011 - 05:52 PM
"Three queens?" She did not understand.
Nor did Petyr choose to explain.
Remember too that chronologically the exchange I quote above takes place toward the end of AFfC...it is in fact the last Sansa chapter. Therefore, we can assume Dany has been running around doing a whole lot of whatever she will be doing in ADwD prior to and up to that point. Plenty of time for information (at the very least) about Dany's conquest of Slaver's Bay to reach him...and half the world for that matter.
LF is as aware as anyone in Westeros (with the possible exception of Varys) about what's going on with Dany. IMO.
Posted 21 June 2011 - 06:04 PM
Posted 21 June 2011 - 06:09 PM
Easy. Varys does all of the work, so if their plot is something you'd consider the most important non-POV, then Varys should be number one.
I don't consider either of them number one though.
Posted 22 June 2011 - 08:36 AM
Edited by SerFelixCulpa, 22 June 2011 - 08:39 AM.
Posted 22 June 2011 - 08:55 AM
Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:10 PM
My other vote goes to Rhaegar. And Howland Reed.
Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:33 PM
Bloodraven might be second, tying with Littlefinger.
Edited by Ravenhair, 26 April 2012 - 02:33 PM.
Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:35 PM
Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:39 PM
Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:40 PM
Agreed, except maybe for Randyll Tarly (as much as I appreciate his harshness and fairness etc etc).
I'd definitely add Olenna Tyrell and the Hound to second tier since the first poisoned Joffrey and the second saves Arya and Sansa both from Certain Death.
Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:47 PM
At some point virtually every important question comes back to him. The rebellion, the PTWP, the 3 heads of the dragon, Jon's ID/TOJ, Harenhall, Jon Con/Aegon, etc.
In terms of alive, Varys, Bloordraven and LF are all at about the same level, Stannis next, and Roose Bolton, Walder Frey, the QOT and Euron GJ a step or 3 behind them. Maybe Mel.
Edited by James Arryn, 26 April 2012 - 02:52 PM.
Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:13 PM
6) Olenna Tyrell
8) The Hound
9) Roose Bolton
10) Wyman Manderly
Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:25 PM
Others: The Boltons, Balon Greyjoy (without him the meltdown in the North could have been avoided), the Reeds (how else would Bran decide and succesfully make it north), Jeor Mormont, Jorah Mormont (Dany would be dead without him), Tywin, and the Cleganes
My darkhorse favorites: Patchface, Wun Wun, Hot Pie, Septon Meribald, recurring black tomcat, Nymeria, and Casso King of Seals
Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:37 PM
As for historical characters I think Aegon the unworthy is supposed to be the cause of many things.