funkymonkey Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 From what we know of him, Dondarrion had no particular love for the Starks or even the Tullys. Neither did he have any interest in assisting Robb in his war against the Lannisters, and was only concerned with protecting the smallfolk. So I find it quite confusing that he would give up his own life to save that of Catelyn's. Anyone have any theories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millardkillmoore Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Maybe he didn't like the idea of a woman being murdered and wanted to help her. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scabbard Of the Morning Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I think the BWB gave the last rite kiss to every corpse they bury.I think Catelyn waking up was an unexpected outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishiwascool Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 i always thought that was kind of odd, especially because it ended his unlife. he is one of my favorite characters so it kind of made me sad. maybe it was because he knew that he wouldn't be able to be revived many more times and wanted to give his life to someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millardkillmoore Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I think the BWB gave the last rite kiss to every corpse they bury.I think Catelyn waking up was an unexpected outcome.Didn't Beric ask Thoros to revive her? When Thoros refused, Beric did it himself. Seems like the resurrection was intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitscralt Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Because he had made a promise to Arya that he would reunite her with her mother. Plus, he was tired of living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixshells Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 He also said it was more and more difficult for him to come back after each "death". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexxxy52 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 From what we know of him, Dondarrion had no particular love for the Starks or even the Tullys. Neither did he have any interest in assisting Robb in his war against the Lannisters, and was only concerned with protecting the smallfolk. So I find it quite confusing that he would give up his own life to save that of Catelyn's. Anyone have any theories?Beric was tired, unlife wasn't easy and with each Resurrection it got even harder. Beric was done with his existence and just wanted things to end.He also did promise to reunite Arya with her mother, this is a step in that direction.As for why Catelyn specifically since it would make her the new leader not sure, I assume he thought she could do a good job in charge on the bwb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Yeah Beric's comments in the Arya chapters made it seem as if he was kinda unhappy about being brought back over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podrick + Arya = Win Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Did he know what Catelyn looked like? And its pretty random to hand over reins of your Brotherhood to a crazy undead woman. Doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitscralt Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 He was with people who knew, such as Harwin. And there was no way of knowing she would be a crazed vengeant monster when she awoke, since he was immediately dead upon finishing the ritual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podrick + Arya = Win Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Ah, I remember Harwin was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 If you consider that it was Ned who, as Hand, sent out Beric and co to kill Gregor, then it makes sense. That was Dondarrion's original purpose, though obviously he did it for king Robert. Ned spoke with Robert's voice. Cat was Ned's wife. Honourable thing to do, especially if you give your own life for it because you hate being brought back again and again.edit: What it also does is show again that doing things for honour can be a dumb move if you do not consider the consequences. Did Beric think Cat would take over? I doubt it. Most likely it would have been his intention that Thoros becomes the new leader of the BWB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j52y Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I also think that he and his company were appalled by what the Freys did. He felt she had a right to vengeance.Plus, he didn't like living anymore.Beric was one of my favorite characters, too. I was really sad when I heard that he died for Stoneheart. I can only hope that the TV series does him justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Beric had promised Arya that he would reunite her with her mother.Beric still worked for Robert, and the wife of Robert's hand was Catelyn.Beric believed he was pushed by justice. Catelyn's murder was unjust and it was fair to right something here.Beric was of a lower rank than Catelyn, as a noble. Knight vows ask you to sacrifice yourself for your betters.That Beric was tired of being brought back certainly played a role, but since he asked Beric first, it was clearly not a suicide at the core.Did he know what Catelyn looked like? And its pretty random to hand over reins of your Brotherhood to a crazy undead woman.Of course he did, he gave her the kiss of life. Beric could not see anything but a still corpse before he passed on his flame, though, so your objection about "crazy undead woman" is stupid (not to mention Beric was a crazy undead man himself, you might want to work on your misogyny) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf2375 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Beric had promised Arya that he would reunite her with her mother.I agree with everything, just wanted to point out something I've always found interesting about this. Beric has gone through the revival, what, 6-7 times or something? He notes that he is less and less himself...remembers less about his past, who he was. So in reviving Cat, is he actually enabling Arya to be reunited with Cat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podrick + Arya = Win Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Beric had promised Arya that he would reunite her with her mother.Beric still worked for Robert, and the wife of Robert's hand was Catelyn.Beric believed he was pushed by justice. Catelyn's murder was unjust and it was fair to right something here.Beric was of a lower rank than Catelyn, as a noble. Knight vows ask you to sacrifice yourself for your betters.That Beric was tired of being brought back certainly played a role, but since he asked Beric first, it was clearly not a suicide at the core.Of course he did, he gave her the kiss of life. Beric could not see anything but a still corpse before he passed on his flame, though, so your objection about "crazy undead woman" is stupid (not to mention Beric was a crazy undead man himself, you might want to work on your misogyny)Wow, I call a lady character in a fantasy series stupid, and I'm somehow misogynistic. What's next? I'm racist if I say Jalabhar Xho should not be cast in the TV series?Jeez. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeejee Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Didn't Harwin also ask Thoros to bring her back? And when he wouldn't, Beric did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Didn't Harwin also ask Thoros to bring her back? And when he wouldn't, Beric did.This is what happened. Thoros explains it during Brienne's last chapter in Feast. What I question is Beric's knowledge of the outcome. Thoros had given the kiss of life to him several times, why would Beric think that his kiss would end his life even if it gave life to Catelyn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFrenchFish Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Another side to this could be R'hillor the God of Thoros and where in theory this gift comes from. Perhaps the God was offended by the Red Wedding and has chosen Catelyn as his instrument of divine justice or something we do not know of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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