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Bronn or Sandor Clegane?


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#161 Melpomene

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:21 PM

Eh, they each have their pros and cons.


I'll go for Sandor. Regardless of physical might or tactics, Sandor would be the ultimate one to understand what dirty games are all about. Bronn's sneaky tactics would be child's play compared to what he went through with his brother Gregor.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:14 PM

View Postchris999, on 02 May 2012 - 03:16 PM, said:

I think he is going to get pious on the Quiet Isle, and he will become a true hero, as well as a true knight, just without the title.

The title comes with the oath.  If he gets pious, why would he refuse the oath?

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It is time for Westeros to have a true hero again, someone like the "Dragon Knight", Dunk, Comm. Gerold Hightower, etc.

It takes a True Knight to slay a dragon.  Sandor, the knight-hater who is terrified of fire, is obviously being set up to ironically assume this role.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:17 PM

I think Sandor would win that fight, but not easily. Bronn definitely has a chance.

I don't see why people call Sandor a wuss for leaving the battle in King's Landing. What was he fighting for, exactly? Joffrey? He didn't give a crap about Joffrey, or being a knight, or any of that crap. What is the point of sticking it out and fighting for some mean little kid who doesn't give a crap about anybody? I don't think he would have stayed in King's Landing forever, wildfire or no.

Whether it's Sandor, Bronn, or anybody else, they simply aren't going to hang around and fight for nothing. They have to be getting something out of it, like gold or honor or just the joy of killing people. I don't think anyone in Westeros would hang around in a battle that won't gain them anything.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:50 PM

I think it would be fairly even until you told the Hound that he has a second chance to kill his brother.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:10 PM

Sandor fights with vicious instinct from what I can tell, he may have reach and power but he does alot of risky moves.

Bronn probably has seen him possibly fight, and possibly dissect his moves and find out his patterns and be able to get him or know what he might do next.  But Sandor can sometimes pull some crazy shit.  Bron would keep his cool, and the hound would just go in balls out angry.

Bronn by an inch.

Edited by Mumatil, 02 May 2012 - 08:11 PM.


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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:17 PM

Regardless of who wins, it would be a hell of a fight.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:21 PM

I'm going Bronn, Sandor can get sloppy and relies on brute force.  Bronn would tire him out and then deliver the killshot.  He wouldn't go toe to toe wth him like Dondorrian.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:10 AM

Sandor
- great fighter
- smart (smarter then some posters think anyway - understands the GOT, wanders around Westeros for weeks/months, etc.)
- not afraid to die ("Death don't scare me. Only fire."(ASOS) - though he still fights even when he's on fire) whereas IMO Bronn likes living too much
- though an alcoholic he can still fight drunk (hopefully he will quietly sober up now)
- with the proper incentive (i.e. the Stark girls) would even fight badly injured whereas Bronn would cut and run


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 10:55 AM

Bronn is a dangerous man because he is so cunning, the Hound is probably stronger but Bronn will have something up his sleeve!

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:06 PM

No one will ever convince me that Bronn would win that fight. He is strong and a good fighter, but still, the Hound is no common man...

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:25 PM

After seeing the little faceoff both of them had this past episode; I think it's fitting to bring this up.

In my opinion, Bronn takes this one because of his skill and agility (swiftness). No mistakes for him though or it wil cost him dearly.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:58 PM

I think the Hound would win. I'm not sure how much The Hounds leg injury has hurt him though. I don't think you could use Sandor's fear of fire against him since i believe he was set on fire during his fight with Beric and still won. so unless you set the whole surroundings on fire  in a fight to the death i'm not sure how much of a factor that would play.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:49 PM

It's really a silly discussion.  Does it really matter? Is one suddenly a better character or a better man if he'd emerge victorious?

It's unknowable anyway, and there's not even a guarantee that the better fighter would actually win (see Oberyn vs. Gregor).  But one thing I wanted to mention ... someone earlier was commenting on Bronn not wanting to fight Gregor and saying that that meant he must be weaker, but that's really not valid.  Bronn didn't want to fight Gregor because, as he rightly pointed out, he'd lose either way -- even winning, he'd lose.  It doesn't mean he didn't think he could do it, nor did he say he didn't think he could.  He just had no good reason to try.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 02:35 AM

Why do we have to choose? They are both awesome in their own way. Personally, I loved them both in the books and I love them both onscreen. It's kind of like Aliens v. Predator... two great creatures, yet putting them head to head diminishes both of their auras. Though personally, if I had to choose, I'd go with The Hound. Only because I prefer my men big and damaged.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 03:14 AM

View PostPlaguewalker, on 02 June 2012 - 02:35 AM, said:

Though personally, if I had to choose, I'd go with The Hound. Only because I prefer my men big and damaged.

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Love you, my twin. :grouphug:


** Though funny enough I imagine Book!Bronn and Book! Sandor to look quite similar, only of course Sandor is much bigger and much more damaged. :laugh:

I sort of think of Bronn as the Hound - Lite ....and as much as I like enjoy the character, I also view him as more of a sell-out. ;)

Ok, so Sandor comes out on top in terms of my personal preferences....but in terms of an actual fight between the two, I have no idea, but despite Bronn's craftiness, I still say the Hound would win ("She knew the Hound would win", hehe!). Bronn's got nothing on that Hound-rage....

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:01 AM

View PostCompletely Headless Ned, on 31 May 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

I think the Hound would win. I'm not sure how much The Hounds leg injury has hurt him though. I don't think you could use Sandor's fear of fire against him since i believe he was set on fire during his fight with Beric and still won. so unless you set the whole surroundings on fire  in a fight to the death i'm not sure how much of a factor that would play.

This is so off-topic but I misread your name as Completely Nedless Head (almost as funny as your real name). :lol:

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:09 AM

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Bronn's got nothing on that Hound-rage....
and that rage may be Sandor's end: cool blood, extreme awareness and cleverness would win that fight. And Bronn is determined enough when his own life is at stage.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:16 AM

I gotta admit when these two had their scene in the tv series I had a nerdgasem. Close matchup of course; I'd go with Sandor because I believe he is more likely to fight through mortal wounds to win a battle. Maybe Bronn would as well but we just don't know. Sandor must be sober of course.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 06:09 PM

I massively disliked the scene between Bronn and the Hound. It just didn't feel particularly true to the books for me. Rory Mccan's casting was spot on. I always imagined Bronn as less noticeable, and just capeable in a quite way.
As for the fight between them, in a straight up fight the Hound would blitz it. Those who say that a full on attack wouldn't work, I point you to the time in the Vale fight where Vardis bull rushed him, and Cat says something along the lines of he almost got him. Sandors bigger, and stronger than Vardis. Furthermore Bronn actually needs to get him off his feet (almost said on his back, but I'm in no mood to even contemplate Brondor) he never elaborated on how to do this. For the post about Bronn being able to use a spear, this just doesn't make sense, he's a s good with his sword as he is because he practises with it. Where pray did he get his spear tutealage? We know he isn't classically trained (master at arms) so he'd of had to make a conscious decision to learn how to use a spear in a fight at some point.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 06:19 PM

Even though I like Bronn better, I would bet on Sandor in this fight. Bronn uses his speed and quickness very well against slow and too-methodical knights and is also very smart, but the Hound is also extremely fast and as people have said, vicious.
I believe Sandor could beat nearly anyone that has appeared so far in a fight (I'm not saying he would do it 100% of the times), and I don't think the same about Bronn.