[ADWD SPOILERS] Tyrion 2
Posted 12 July 2011 - 06:25 PM
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 04:24 AM
(edited out some references to the next Tyrion chapter. I got 2 and 3 mixed up.)
If that's the case, it won't remain a mystery for long, because Barristan Selmy will surely recognise him on sight.
Edited by Alaerien, 14 July 2011 - 04:45 AM.
Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:50 AM
We also know the Iron Men are hunting for Dany too, so those two stories will be intersecting soon I expect. I can't believe I'm about to say this... but I'm actually looking forward to some greyjoy chapters.
Posted 15 July 2011 - 03:06 AM
Posted 26 July 2011 - 08:32 PM
From Tyrion 1:
"If only I was better with a crossbow, I would have put it through that cock you made me with, you bloody bastard."
From Tyrion 2:
"He looked for ruts and cracks but found only a pile of warm dung deposited by one of the horses. The dung made him think of his lord father."
Tyrion used to be my favourite, both as character and POV, but it's harder to sympathize with the man he has become after he was released from the black cells by Jaime.
Posted 17 August 2011 - 08:36 PM
Whatever he's interested in, they must think it's important for the Lannisters to remain in power because he, if it was him, was talking with Varys, I assume, in GoT about killing Ned if he proved to be as much of a problem as Jon Arryn.
Posted 20 August 2011 - 02:58 PM
I dont think Varys and Illyrio want the Lannisters on the throne, because Tyrion is hated by Cersei, and why would Illyrio be sending him to Daenarys or doing anything he has been doing for the entirety of the series if he did support the Lannisters. When they speak of Neds death as something they want to happen, i assume it was because his death would mean war with the Starks and would cause turmoil in the seven kingdoms, thus making Daenarys's return and invasion much smoother.
I think you are thinking too much, Varys and Illyrio are definately Targaryan supporters. As to why they are Targaryan supporters, i think they are just choosing the side they think will win, and or are generally looking out for the good of the realm.
Posted 30 August 2011 - 07:29 PM
I've really enjoyed he and Illyrio's banter - especially the mushrooms. That was deftly done on Martin's part. I agree with Tammy, there is more to Illyrio's motivations. I don't think we know him well enough yet to know what that is. Perhaps he doesn't think Dany would stop with only the 7 kingdoms? Maybe he wants to be Warden of Essos under the Iron Throne. Maybe he and Varys have a personal stake from their past that hasn't been revealed. Perhaps Littlefinger is involved, thoguht I doubt he and Varys work together more than occasionally. I'm taking Game Theory this semester and it's made me paranoid.
Posted 01 October 2011 - 02:28 PM
Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:36 PM
Anyway, enjoyed the info about the history of the land. What happens when they reach the river? Does Tyrion go by himself down the river to Volantis? I'm still a little confused about the lay of the land and how the two maps line up with each other. Where is Valyria in relation to Pentos and Volantis? I assume Daenarys is east of where they are.
And fatass is disgusting me with all his gorging. Picturing Tyrion becoming a smaller fatass. What a sight that would be!
Posted 07 December 2011 - 11:25 AM
If anything, I think I have come to sympathize even more with Tyrion. When we first became aquainted with him in GoT, it was evident that he has been ridiculed his entire life for something he has no control over. After getting to know him more thoroughly in these last three books, how can someone not be more sympathetic? Take all the shit he has been through in his young life prior to the start of the series and compounded that exponentially. What you come up with is something much more than a normal human being could put up with, let alone not be emotionally affected by. The fact that he has still managed to be as calculating and smart as ever... Well, props to him.
I would venture to say that both Varys and Illyrio feel some sort of loyalty to, or at least a tendency to prefer, the Targaryen line based on the fact that all their origins come from Essos. It sounds like Illyrio is from Braavos, Varys from Myr, and the Targaryen line is, of course, from old Valyria. All of these locations are across the sea from Westeros, and I feel that there is a nature human emotion to preserve ties to those of a similar background.
This is just an opinion, and I am sure that there are even more reasons for Illyrio and Varys' loyalty to Daenerys beyond this.
Edited by Laohu, 07 December 2011 - 11:27 AM.
Posted 18 December 2011 - 05:55 PM
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 04:36 AM
Posted 14 February 2012 - 08:58 AM
Haha, that line made me laugh out loud aswell. Kinda awkward, since it was like 1 or 2 am and my mom was sleeping.
Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:15 AM
Griff (who may in fact be Jon Connington)
His training knights
The loyal Meereenese
The remainder of her Khalasar
Including her blood riders
The Golden Company
Her slave "children"
(If Robert can be believed) "half the scum" of Westeros
Quentyn (backed by the Martells and by extension Dorne)
I may be missing some, but we also have allies who through speculation, or prophecy may come to join her cause:
Jon Snow (backed by the nights watch, and wildlings)
Melisandre (if she realizes that Dany is the true fulfillment of the prophecy)
Arya (if somehow their paths cross in time)
That mage from the citadel who Sam talked with in his last chapter in aFFC
along with him some unspecified number of maesters at the citadel
And then there are those I want to join her cause , but can't see a conceivable way of actually doing so:
Since Dany has been my favorite character since book 1, I'd say I'm quite pleased where the story is going.
Edited by Blair Dale, 14 March 2012 - 10:15 AM.