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[ADwD spoilers] Shout outs to other works


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A thread to list all the shout outs to other authors you may have spotted. The only one I can remember is in one of Arya's chapters; there's a reference to the priests of the Pattern, and walking it properly brings wisdom - clearly a reference to Amber.

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I swear there are two references to Monty Python's holy grail. The first is in an early Dany chapter, IIRC, I read really fast, but I think it's somtething like a company of swellswords retreating if you would "fart in their general direction". Now English isn't my first language, but I don't recall ever hearing this being used in normal conversion, save by the French Taunters.

The second reference isn't really a reference, I must admit, but during Asha's battle against the northern clans, she thinks it's like fighting "shrubbery's".

This could off course be all in my mind, I'm quite a fan of Monty Pyhton, so don't judge too harsh :rolleyes: .

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I swear there are two references to Monty Python's holy grail. The first is in an early Dany chapter, IIRC, I read really fast, but I think it's somtething like a company of swellswords retreating if you would "fart in their general direction". Now English isn't my first language, but I don't recall ever hearing this being used in normal conversion, save by the French Taunters.

The second reference isn't really a reference, I must admit, but during Asha's battle against the northern clans, she thinks it's like fighting "shrubbery's".

This could off course be all in my mind, I'm quite a fan of Monty Pyhton, so don't judge too harsh :rolleyes: .

Haha, yeah I spotted those. :cheers:

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I recall GRRM went to see Monty Python's Spamalot a few years back. I suspect that may be a direct reason for the insertions. Hrm, I wonder if one could even date the writing of those particular chapters as being in close relation to that visit to Broadway?

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"And, as the Knights of White Harbour closed in on the last of the Freys, they let out a great shout. Ni! Ni! Ni!" - The Winds of Winter.

Shouldn't they say Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptangya Ziiinnggggggg Ni?

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In Tyrion's first chapter when he is being packed in a wine cask and bumped and rolled and jounced all over the place, it reminded me of the dwarves in the Hobbit who are also packed into barrels in order to escape and all the rolling and bouncing and cramping that took place.

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In Tyrion's first chapter when he is being packed in a wine cask and bumped and rolled and jounced all over the place, it reminded me of the dwarves in the Hobbit who are also packed into barrels in order to escape and all the rolling and bouncing and cramping that took place.

I was actually reminded of an incident from The Lies of Locke Lamora by that part.

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