[ADWD SPOILERS] Theon 1
Posted 15 July 2011 - 01:09 AM
I know Martin is not one for happy endings, but I don't think even he is evil enough to let Ramsay catch them again.
Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:33 AM
Posted 15 July 2011 - 09:16 PM
Loved it -- gheez, i hope Theon gets a little break for a while
Posted 15 July 2011 - 09:52 PM
I'm assuming this is his cliffhanger for the book though. Not sure if we'll see him again. Very good arc for him this book. I know he's been a shit, but I've always found him more sympathetic (emphasis on the pathetic) than horrible. I don't believe there's a happy ending waiting for Theon, but I'm glad he at least found himself before whatever horrible ending surely awaits him.
Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:51 AM
Manderly has quickly become one of my favourite characters since the Davos chapters. Letting Davos go to find Rickon, "the north remembers", killing some Freys and baking them in pie to feed to their own family and now this. House Manderly!
Edited by Xanderpanda, 16 July 2011 - 04:52 AM.
Posted 16 July 2011 - 09:34 AM
Posted 17 July 2011 - 04:35 AM
Notes on this chapter:
* I believe that Big Walder killed Little Walder on Ramsay's orders. We saw in one of the earlier chapters that Little Walder was not a big fan of getting involved with Ramsay and his boys. Ramsay knew that this would ignite the already tense situation between the Freys and Manderleys. Ramsay knew something was going to happen as he came into the hall putting on his swordbelt.
* So I was wrong and Stannis is outside the gates. Did he not use trumpets at Deepwood Motte though?
* Loved Theon and Jeyne's leap of faith at the end!
* Manderley's line about growing up a Frey was AWESOME!
Posted 17 July 2011 - 01:50 PM
Me too. Hopefully while shouting to all the sundry Northmen that Arya Stark has escaped, further fracturing the Bolton host.
I wonder if Theon ever showed Mance and the spearwives where the crypts are? Mance asked about it in the last Winterfell chapter. Here's hoping some of them have escaped to hide there.
Despite their contempt for kneelers, they seemed to have a healthy, if grudging respect for the Starks and Stark words.
I think that Little Walder was Ramsay's creature, while Big Walder was the one of the pair who was less apt to participate in Ramsay's cruelties. IIRC, in one of the Reek chapters Little Walder throws his horse's reins to Reek, who makes that note, while Big Walder goes to take care of his own horse.
As for Ramsay walking in putting on his swordbelt - they've just had a raven from somewhere. Theon sees Roose and Ramsey arguing, notes the raven and the wet parchment, but cannot hear them. The raven comes before the discovery of Little Walder's body, and before Roose sends the Freys and Manderlys out via opposite gates.
Something's up and I'm trying to figure out what it is. Could Davos have returned with Rickon? Could the castellan at White Harbor have sent a "celebrate! Rickon is alive!" message? That does not seem likely, but I'm not sure that there's much else that could precipitate that confrontation we witnessed. Maybe Rickon and Shaggydog are marching on Winterfell with a cannibal host.
Posted 18 July 2011 - 02:39 PM
I think I already said this in a previous thread but Manderly is the fucking man.
Edited by AnotherDeadStark, 18 July 2011 - 02:39 PM.
Posted 18 July 2011 - 08:39 PM
And yes. Manderly is awesome.
Posted 19 July 2011 - 01:13 AM
Martin is amazing... i cant believe that i'm actually liking Theon.
oh, and Manderly is so awesome
Posted 19 July 2011 - 04:56 PM
Posted 20 July 2011 - 12:46 AM
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:36 PM
I also think the return of Theon's consciousness will have helped him realise how Bran eluded him. So yes, I think he told Abel how they did it and I think Abel will do the same- assuming theres no denying the Frenya and Holly are two of the girls that arrived with him.
Edited by Rhaegar's Bastard, 20 July 2011 - 06:37 PM.
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