I think that Jon isn't dead. A friend of mine have an interesting theory about the ASOIAF story. When a character seems dead in his own chapter, he is not dead. The characters died in other characters POV. If we think a little bit, all deaths have been like that. Ned died in Arya chapter. Catelyn seems dead in her own POV but she isn't (well she is, but she comes back...). Roob died in Catelyn's POV. Brienne seems dead in her POV but she turned out to be alive. Tyrion could be dead in a lot of his POV (black water battle or when he saves Aegon and falls into the river...) but he never is. Tywin, by other hand, died in Tyrion POV.
So, I think Jon will live. I really hope that he doesn´t become a bad person however (like UnJon or something).
And I think that there still are a lot of question about him that haven't been answered.
But we never know.
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[ADWD SPOILERS] Jon 13
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, Jul 14 2011 07:15 AM
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:36 AM
Branna, on 21 July 2011 - 07:33 AM, said:
No way is Jon dead. Too many prophesies about him. For example, Dany in the house of the undying:
Her silver was trotting through the grass, to a darkling stream beneath a sea of stars. A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright on his dead face, gray lips smiling sadly. A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness...mother of dragons...bride of death...
--This to me implies that Jon must be alive...long enough for him to meet Dany and "fill the air with sweetness". Who else could the blue flower be referring to?
pages 700-707 AFFC
Why build up a mystery about his parentage just to kill him off?
Plot armor, plot armor, plot armor.
Also, the Red Wedding, Ned's Death...etc, those horrifying deaths didn't happen in a cliffhanger. GRRM knew it was important to follow up their deaths with confirmations of their deaths.
Imagine how pissed off we'd have been if Thrones ended with the Arya chapter in which Ned died. There'd have been years of people theorising how he wasn't dead...and then a hell of a lot of VERY angry people if he wasn't alive when Clash came out. I think Jon's death in this one is going to be more like Brienne's....he isn't.
Whether due to his "smoking wounds" (Melisandre resurrection), or him just needing some TLC for his wounds, he will definitely be around in Winds of Winter.
Her silver was trotting through the grass, to a darkling stream beneath a sea of stars. A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright on his dead face, gray lips smiling sadly. A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness...mother of dragons...bride of death...
--This to me implies that Jon must be alive...long enough for him to meet Dany and "fill the air with sweetness". Who else could the blue flower be referring to?
pages 700-707 AFFC
Why build up a mystery about his parentage just to kill him off?
Plot armor, plot armor, plot armor.
Also, the Red Wedding, Ned's Death...etc, those horrifying deaths didn't happen in a cliffhanger. GRRM knew it was important to follow up their deaths with confirmations of their deaths.
Imagine how pissed off we'd have been if Thrones ended with the Arya chapter in which Ned died. There'd have been years of people theorising how he wasn't dead...and then a hell of a lot of VERY angry people if he wasn't alive when Clash came out. I think Jon's death in this one is going to be more like Brienne's....he isn't.
Whether due to his "smoking wounds" (Melisandre resurrection), or him just needing some TLC for his wounds, he will definitely be around in Winds of Winter.
Whoa reading this and adding... "bride of dead" sounds like Dani marrying a resurrected Jon.
