Sualk, on 17 July 2011 - 07:29 PM, said:
Answer: Anybody with a dragon.
It makes sense with the prophecy as well (i.e., slayer of lies). Daenerys, or rather, one of her dragons, will expose him.
Him getting burned by a dragon would hardly expose him as a lie. A dragon would probably burn the crap out of Jon as well, it doesn't mean anything. Viserys was no fake either, his legal claim was obviously superior to Dany's. Egg and his son Prince Duncan, Queen Rhaenyra who got eaten by her little brother's dragon and so on - none were "fake", in fact since Egg/Rhaenyra etc. were generations in the past and less diluted they had more Valyrian/Aegon the Conqueror blood than Dany does.
Sualk, on 17 July 2011 - 09:03 PM, said:
Incidentally, I imagine the whole wrinkle about dragons recognizing those with Targaryen blood was invented so "Aegon" could be found out as a fraud and so that Jon Snow could be confirmed as the son of R + L.
Quentyn Martell probably has at least as much "dragon blood" as Brown Ben Plumm. Most of the great houses in Westeros are probably direct descendants of Aegon the Conqueror. I find the notion of the dragons responding well to mad Aerys pretty questionable as well, and he was Dany's own dad and the source of her claim. I don't really see how the dragons can be considered a dragon detection system. It would be completely untrustworthy and inconsistent.
There has to be some other way for Aegon to be revealed as a fake. Now it might have to do with dragons - but it wouldn't be because of "Targaryen blood", it would be because she used the dragon to terrifying someone like Varys or Illyrio into spilling the beans.
Sualk, on 17 July 2011 - 08:09 PM, said:
The whole theme of the prophecy is that things come in three for her. It would be odd if the prophecy referred to her as "bride of fire" except, you know, when you got married the second time -- we won't count that.
It has nothing to do with how many people she has slept with. That's irrelevant. She can sleep with Daario all she wants, or Victarion for that matter, or even Tyrion, but she will only marry three times and she has already married twice.
Yes, I interpreted the "slayer of lies" to be about Stannis=Azhor Azai, the mummer's dragon, and the stone beast. And for Dany to have three husbands, Drogo, the corpse (I would guess Euron), and the blue flower (Jon presumably).
The problem there is as you say, why would Hizdahr not be mentioned? And a 4th husband doesn't fit the themes of three. Though really I suspect this is simply because the Hizdahr nonsense was just some crap Martin pulled out of his ass, and he'd never intended for Dany to have more than 3 husbands until after he started Dance. Hizdahr not fitting into the vision will probably just be ignored by the author, I think, and she'll end up having 4 husbands. Because it would require some serious shoehorning for Hizdahr to become a bright eyed corpse on a ship smiling with grey lips.
In any case Dany's vision, and Moqorro's false dragons visoin, indicate that Aegon is probably a fake. I'd be annoyed if he was Illyrio's boy, but unfortunately him being Illyrio and Serra's kid looks to be the best guess at the moment.