[ADWD SPOILERS] Where Is Rickon?
Posted 18 July 2011 - 10:35 PM
Posted 19 July 2011 - 12:42 PM
Edited by madking, 19 July 2011 - 12:43 PM.
Posted 19 July 2011 - 01:20 PM
We have at least three hints for Skagos.
First is someone (Sam, I think) seeing a cog broken up on the shore of Skagos in AFFC.
Second is Jon's wolf dream where he sees shaggy dog fighting a gigantic goat that wounds him with "one long horn" (Skagos is rumored to have unicorns)
Third is Davos thinking when he sees where the knife sticks in the map that he'd almost rather be back in prison than go to a land where the men are rumored to eat other men (Skagos has a reputation for cannibalism).
Posted 19 July 2011 - 01:22 PM
Davos is not with Manderly, we assume he went after Rickon. Davos wants to secure the north for Stannis, and Manderly told him that the best way to do that is to have the young heir of Winterfell. So it's not a favor rather than an attempt to secure rickon for Stannis.
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:05 PM
I think we can safely assume that Davos went to Skagos to find Rickon. Based on what we know of Skagos, this could be some very, very interesting reading. According to Sam's description in AFFC;
So, the Skagos have no love for the northmen and especially for the Lord of Winterfell. I wonder which Lord of Winterfell it was that died? I need to check back when Bran and Theon are naming the Winterfell Lords in the Winterfell crypt. Might be something interesting. This would have occured about 2 generations before Ned as Lord.
If both Osha & Rickon survived, I hope Osha has enough sense to keep Rickon's identity secret.
If they survived, it is likely they are stuck there as it is not a tourist destination.
The wreckage of the galley is likely their boat. The timing is right and why else mention it?
By the time Davos arrives 2 to 3 years will have passed, with Rickon being 7 or 8. I can't imagine how he would survive the harsh life on Skagos without any scars. I hope GRRM does not have him turn into a cannibal, but wouldn't be surprised if he does.
This bodes to be another horrifying story.
Just desserts for Ramsey is if Rickon yanks his heart out and eats it!
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:09 PM
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:12 PM
Admit it, you won't be surprised, will you? He's a Stark after all.
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:24 PM
Naw, he's been crowned king of the place, after accidentally fulfilling some kind of prophecy about a boy arriving by sea with a giant unicorn-fighting wolf.
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:27 PM
Doubtful Davos would be a good fighter. He was a smuggler originally and then a captain. He probably never received any training in combat so probably can just brawl and maybe limited sword work but that's it.
He didn't even learn to read until SoS so the chance for any advanced training would be nill.
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:27 PM
I think Davos has to succeed and get them off Skagos but yeah, GRRM has a lot of room for murder and terror in this story. We saw Davos fight at Blackwater/Kings landing. He's fierce.
I think it more likely that after living there a couple of years that Rickon is assimilated, living with one of the tribes. He may not want to leave Skagos.
Also wonder if Bran knows where Rickon is. I bet their are weirwoods on Skagos. Perhaps Bran will try to help Rickon.
Edited by Dragons Dancing, 20 July 2011 - 06:28 PM.
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:32 PM
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:33 PM
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:42 PM
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:43 PM
Check the map out. Skagos is a large island due east of the Wall. The only way to get to skaos from anywhere is by boat. It is cold there. I wouldn't be surprised to learn there are other wildings who made it there in the past and settled.
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:47 PM
Yeah, that's my thought or helping him to remember that he is a northman from Winterfall. It didn't take long for Theon to forget who he was under extreme torture. God, I hope Rickon has not been tortured. He could think Skagos is his life forever and he was only 5 years old when he went there, his memories of Winterfell are weak. I can see him assimilating into the barbaric customs of Skagos easy.
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:51 PM
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:52 PM
When Bran sees visions of the past through the trees he sees a women heavy with child who kneels before the tree and asks the old gods for a son who would avenge her. Maybe she's the wife of this Lord of Winterfell that died? I think the timing would fit...before Ned/Lyanna/Brandon/Benjen, but after Ser Duncan the Tall (presumably the tall Knight from the visions)
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:57 PM
Posted 20 July 2011 - 07:09 PM
That is probably the point. Why stay at a place that is easy to get to? And Osha probably feels safer with the more wild folks of Skagos than with the Umbers (who hate wildlings) or with the Manderlys (they seemed like the odd-men out in the North, following the Seven and all).