naz Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 There's nothing like the internet to make you feel alternately smart and stupid. In the case of this forum, it's more often the latter. This might be a somewhat redundant and/or pointless thread, but I wanted to get an idea of how many other people just didn't notice some fairly obvious things in ADWD until seeing people post about them here.My list of shame:- The Manderly Pie, baked with wholesome 100% natural Freys. No artificial flavors or colors. You'd think the Rat Cook mention would've tipped me off, but it just flew right by me. I really want a T-shirt now that says "Don't ask what's in the pie."- Mance = Abel. If I could physically kick myself in the ass, I would have done so after reading about this in the forum. How could I not get this one? Totally obvious, yet I didn't get it until it was pointed out. Stupid. And the whole time, I'm wondering who the hell these ninja chicks are and why are they so keen on getting Theon and Fake Arya out of Winterfell all of a sudden?- Rickon is on Skagos. Admittedly, I would've had a better chance of figuring this one out if I'd been in the book threads more in the last few years. I just assumed that the prevailing theory was that Rickon and Osha were going towards Howland Reed and left it at that. Wasn't as important a mystery to me, to be honest.- Aegon may be fake. Again, I'd forgotten or just plain didn't read much of the previous theorizing on this one, esp. the bit about the mummer's dragon, which I simply forgot about. I took it as face value that this reveal was the genuine article, but after reading threads on here, he could easily be fake.- Dunk in the Winterfell godswood. Seeing as I just read The Mystery Knight a couple of weeks ago, you'd think I'd get this one. Nope. Looking forward to some Dunk-on-Nan action in the next novella, though. (Ok, that sounds weird.)I'm not a total idiot, though. I did manage to notice Bloodraven, the ship's name being Fragrant Seneschal, young Lyanna & Benjen in Bran's vision, that Septa Lemore might be someone of consequence, gay Jon Connington, and other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen M Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 There's nothing like the internet to make you feel alternately smart and stupid. In the case of this forum, it's more often the latter. This might be a somewhat redundant and/or pointless thread, but I wanted to get an idea of how many other people just didn't notice some fairly obvious things in ADWD until seeing people post about them here.My list of shame:- The Manderly Pie, baked with wholesome 100% natural Freys. No artificial flavors or colors. You'd think the Rat Cook mention would've tipped me off, but it just flew right by me. I really want a T-shirt now that says "Don't ask what's in the pie."- Mance = Abel. If I could physically kick myself in the ass, I would have done so after reading about this in the forum. How could I not get this one? Totally obvious, yet I didn't get it until it was pointed out. Stupid. And the whole time, I'm wondering who the hell these ninja chicks are and why are they so keen on getting Theon and Fake Arya out of Winterfell all of a sudden?- Rickon is on Skagos. Admittedly, I would've had a better chance of figuring this one out if I'd been in the book threads more in the last few years. I just assumed that the prevailing theory was that Rickon and Osha were going towards Howland Reed and left it at that. Wasn't as important a mystery to me, to be honest.- Aegon may be fake. Again, I'd forgotten or just plain didn't read much of the previous theorizing on this one, esp. the bit about the mummer's dragon, which I simply forgot about. I took it as face value that this reveal was the genuine article, but after reading threads on here, he could easily be fake.- Dunk in the Winterfell godswood. Seeing as I just read The Mystery Knight a couple of weeks ago, you'd think I'd get this one. Nope. Looking forward to some Dunk-on-Nan action in the next novella, though. (Ok, that sounds weird.)I'm not a total idiot, though. I did manage to notice Bloodraven, the ship's name being Fragrant Seneschal, young Lyanna & Benjen in Bran's vision, that Septa Lemore might be someone of consequence, gay Jon Connington, and other things.I knew Aegon might be fake, but I missed all the others, including the ones you mentioned you did notice. Well, I actually had suspicions about Lemore. I also totally missed that Arya poisoned the coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellroy Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 - The Manderly's Pye.- Last Dany chapter = Mirri Maz Duur prophecy.- Jon's death = AAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegon II Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Oh yeah Mance loves to sing as well hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfrenchy Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 nice thread, i'll add in myself about the pie thingthough i really have to quote this:- Mance = Abel.where you flying through the book? there's a whole scene that sets this up with explanation of magic and all all sorts of cool tricks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Pistus Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I knew the Abel is Mance, but I did not realize that Abel is an anagram of Bael (the bard who stole the rose of Winterfell).I missed the Frey pie.I missed the sun setting on the East.I missed the bleeding star, but I still think it is either a coincidence or a misdirection.And I think it is almost impossible that Young Griff is the real Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyJackal Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I missed the Frey pie and the poisoned coin. And pretty much all the prophecy references.And....gay Jon Connington ? Must have skimmed past that as I don't really liked the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanna vander Poele Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 This book made me realise that I am a full-blown DUMMY. The only one I got was that Rickon was on Skagos. Everything else... nope, nope, nope. I didn't even catch Connington's affection for his "silver prince", for shame!!Seriously, I missed so much stuff it's embarrassing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon the Epithetless Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I missed the Arya coin in my first read through, didn't know how she killed him with a coin, till I was reminded of the Jaqen on Pate trick.That was my polite answer though, I really wanted to reply "There are no idiots like you there is only you." but don't know if you would have taken Jaime-snark kindly. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I missed exactly how the coin trick was supposed to work and had to be reminded of Pate.I also missed that Mance = Abel until later in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazl Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 [idiot mode]Wait, why do you all think Aegon is a fake?[/idiot mode] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Don't take it personally, I missed everything to do with prophecies. Granted that could make me an idiot as well, but I don't like being an idiot so I'm going to go with: It's completely normal to miss a few things here and there. Nothing of important. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moffy Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I didn't realise until now Arya poisoned the coin! I thought she counted on the guy having a massive freakout when he saw the coin and dying of a heart attack :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbmcmanus Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I didn't realise until now Arya poisoned the coin! I thought she counted on the guy having a massive freakout when he saw the coin and dying of a heart attack :rolleyes:Yeah, the key is that he tests all the coins by biting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus of the South Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I rely on this forum to interpret prophecies for me, I have no idea.Missed gay Connington and only got the pies when Manderly asked for the Rat Cook song.Most others I got from months of browsing this forum though (fake Aegon, Dunk, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 It took me longer than it should have to suss out Mance = Abel. I mean, that one was really obvious. I blush to confess I missed it at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I missed just about everything. I mean, I thought of fake Aegon and gay Connington, but those are more questions of interpretation than actual obvious details. I got Benjen and Lyanna and Bloodraven, but missed Dunk, Skagon, Abel for a while, the Pie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decius Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 [idiot mode]Wait, why do you all think Aegon is a fake?[/idiot mode]No idea, and considering that there is a 10 page thread discussing the topic I don't think it is "all". It is certainly not me, because I think Aegon is the real deal (Varys being the "mummer" to his dragon to make the "mummer's dragon" accurate). Which means he will die horribly and/or be useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowned Mikken Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Mance being Abel (until the end anyway). And I still didn't realise the whole Bael= Abel anagram.Also thought that Manderly was a gonner from the Throat-Cut-By-Frey, until I re-read it.Ughh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaune Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I missed:- the Manderly Pie- Theon being gelded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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