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[ADwD, MK SPOILERS] Where are the dragon Eggs?


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I just read the Mystery Knight and it says that at the time of Dunk & Egg there were enough dragon Eggs left for each Targ to get one in their craddle.

That's probably been asked before, but, Alas, the search-function...

So: where's Aemon's Egg? Bloodraven's Egg? Euron had one (and I believe still has: why throw it away as he said, when he could at least sell it?).

It's also rumored that they've been hidden in Dragonstone. Does Varys (Illyrio) have them then? He provided Viserys/Dany with three it seems. Stannis never mentioned them, so I guess he hasn't found them.

I think GRRM will have the dragons extinct at the end again, as he's making clear they're savage beasts. But still I'd like to know where they are. They are no Amber Room after all that simply can disappear.

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I too am reading the Mystery Knight and here is the exact passage.

Egg (Aemon) Targaryen: "I'd show you mine, ser, but it's at Summerhall."

Dunk (Ser Duncan the Tall, Hedge Knight): "Yours? Your dragon's egg?" Dunk frowned down at the boy, wondering if it was some jape. "Where did it come from?"

Egg: "From a dragon, ser. They put it in my cradle."

Dunk: "Do you want a clout on the ear? There are no dragons."

Egg: "No, but there are eggs. The last one left a clutch of five, and they have more on Dragonstone, old ones from before the Dance. My brothers all have them too. Aerion's looks like it's made of gold and silver, with veins of fire running through it. Mine is white and green, all swirly."

Stone dragons are dragon eggs as Dany refers to them as such in AGOT. We know Dany has three, so the question is, where are the others and who will make them hatch?

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If many of them were kept at Summerhall, I guess those would be destroyed now. Maybe there might be a few around - sold onto the blackmarket, held secretly by Targ loyalists, stashed at Dragonstone - but I bet that most of them were destroyed at Summerhall.

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Summerhall was destroyed by fire in the year 259 AL, on the same night Prince Rhaegar Targaryen was born to Prince Aerys and his sister-wife Rhaella. The fire was a serious blow to House Targaryen, as King Aegon V Targaryen, his eldest son and heir Prince Duncan and his good friend Ser Duncan the Tall, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, were also all killed. The fire is sometimes blamed on one of the periodic attempts by the Targaryens to hatch ancient dragon eggs.

Prince Rhaegar grew with a complex fascination for Summerhall, where he was happiest yet also saddened by the memory of the tragedy.

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Cool topic. Two thoughts. First, do these descriptions match the descriptions of the Danny eggs?

Second, I am wondering if the tragedy at summer hall was not about a failed dragon hatching as much of an act of faceless men and/or maester sabotage. Worth a chin stroke, murmur murmur, I think.

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Lets see, Dany's eggs

" One egg was a deep green, with burnished bronze flecks that came and went depending on how Dany turned it. Another was pale cream streaked with gold. The last was black, as black as a midnight sea, yet alive with scarlet ripples and swirls."

If maybe they change colors with time....

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Cool topic. Two thoughts. First, do these descriptions match the descriptions of the Danny eggs?

Second, I am wondering if the tragedy at summer hall was not about a failed dragon hatching as much of an act of faceless men and/or maester sabotage. Worth a chin stroke, murmur murmur, I think.

I believe I read about this in a thread a long time ago and they came to the conclusion that they were not the same eggs because of the descriptions and they thought Dany's eggs must have come from Asshai, I think they even checked all of the eggs that are described in the SSM. Everyone's best guess was any eggs left from the Targs may be stashed at Dragonstone if any are left. I'm not 100% because I never checked myself and I assumed they did.

ETA

Keep reading, Apple Martini and Capon Breath worked it all out (maybe) :D

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I know at least a few people think that Rhaegal actually hatched out of Aegon's egg. The green-and-white egg that Aegon had turned green-and-bronze in the Summerhall fire.

Lord Butterwell's egg was red. Drogon's is black and red. Perhaps burning it at Summerhall turned it black?

Illyrio feeding Dany the line of bull about how they're petrified eggs from Asshai, or whatever, was a cover-up to avoid having to explain how he (and I suppose Varys) came into possession of some of the Targ family stash.

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I know at least a few people think that Rhaegal actually hatched out of Aegon's egg. The green-and-white egg that Aegon had turned green-and-bronze in the Summerhall fire.

Lord Butterwell's egg was red. Drogon's is black and red. Perhaps burning it at Summerhall turned it black?

Illyrio feeding Dany the line of bull about how they're petrified eggs from Asshai, or whatever, was a cover-up to avoid having to explain how he (and I suppose Varys) came into possession of some of the Targ family stash.

That's what I thought. On the other hand, I like the idea that there could be at least 5 other dragons eggs besides those they gave Daenerys - and, as dangerous as Martin has said over and over dragons are, it would make sense for other dragons to be flying around Westeros when the series came to a close... Magic can't die so soon after its return...

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My Crackpot theory is that there is a secret stash of eggs at KL (maybe collected by Varys?) and that they will all get hatched when the secret stach of Wildfire also in KL goes off and some Targ blood is involved.

This is so why I read that thread (back when I was just a lurker) I thought surely there are eggs in KL, but they didn't think so because some one would have found them. Well some one did, Varys right. Put that with Apple Martini's idea and there you go. Thank you for throwing your crackpot in the mix, you made me very happy and the same goes for AM

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My Crackpot theory is that there is a secret stash of eggs at KL (maybe collected by Varys?) and that they will all get hatched when the secret stach of Wildfire also in KL goes off and some Targ blood is involved.

My crackpot theory is that there are a lot of dragon eggs left in post doom Valyria, but don't get Geroge started on going back there!

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This may mean nothing, and I can't reference it, but I remember reading somewhere about the three eggs that belonged to Baelor the Blessed's three sisters, Daena, Elaena and Rhaena, the ones who were confined to the Maidenvault. Apparently the eggs owned by these three sisters match the descriptions of Dany's three eggs. As I said, I can't remember where I read this, if it is true, or even if is relevant at all but I just thought I would put it out there...

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If many of them were kept at Summerhall, I guess those would be destroyed now. Maybe there might be a few around - sold onto the blackmarket, held secretly by Targ loyalists, stashed at Dragonstone - but I bet that most of them were destroyed at Summerhall.

How do you destroy a dragon egg?

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Its possible that Illyrio did get those eggs from Asshai, since dragons are mentioned stirring in that place. I think it was in Brans dream where he mentions dragons stirring beyond the shadow in Asshai or something like that. I'm pretty sure it was before Danys eggs even hatched, but my memory is about as dependable as a boat made of construction paper so it might have been after the hatching, but either way, they were stirring in Asshai in the dream, not in Vias Dothrak or where ever that was Dany burned Drogo, so Bran saw different dragons than Danys.

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The 3 eggs Dany has are the same 3 from Dunk and Egg stories.

Danny's eggs

1). Deep green, with burnished bronze fleck that came and went depending how you turn it.

2). Pale cream streaked with gold.

3). Black, as black as a MIDNIGHT sea, yet alive with scarlet ripples an swirls.

Aerion Targaryens egg is gold and silver with veins of fire

Aegon Targaryens egg is white and green, all swirly

Lord Butterwalls egg is said to have fine red scales covering its surface, shining bright as jewels by the of lamps and candles... The scales were smooth and deep, rich red seemed to shimmer as its turned. BLOOD and FIRE with gold flecks and whirls of MIDNIGHT BLACK

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Aegon Targaryen ( Egg ) later King Aegon V said he and all his brothers have dragon eggs. That would make at least 4 eggs plus Lord Butterwells which was given to him when he was Hand of the King, so 5 eggs. Aegon also says that their are eggs on Dragonstone from before the Dance. He does not say how many.

Aegon Targaryen V had 3 brothers

1) Daeron Targaryen

2) Aerion Targaryen

3) Maester Aemon

Where are Daeron and Maester Aemons egg?? And yes Maester Aemon is the same guy as the Nights Watch Maester Aemon.

Hes been at the wall this whole time so where did he hide his egg.

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The 3 eggs Dany has are the same 3 from Dunk and Egg stories.

Danny's eggs

1). Deep green, with burnished bronze fleck that came and went depending how you turn it.

2). Pale cream streaked with gold.

3). Black, as black as a MIDNIGHT sea, yet alive with scarlet ripples an swirls.

Aerion Targaryens egg is gold and silver with veins of fire

Aegon Targaryens egg is white and green, all swirly

Lord Butterwalls egg is said to have fine red scales covering its surface, shining bright as jewels by the of lamps and candles... The scales were smooth and deep, rich red seemed to shimmer as its turned. BLOOD and FIRE with gold flecks and whirls of MIDNIGHT BLACK

Ah good thinking. I wasn't sure where Viserion's egg would have come from but it makes sense that it'd be Aerion's. Ah, the D&E novellas. Is there anything they can't do?!

This may mean nothing, and I can't reference it, but I remember reading somewhere about the three eggs that belonged to Baelor the Blessed's three sisters, Daena, Elaena and Rhaena, the ones who were confined to the Maidenvault. Apparently the eggs owned by these three sisters match the descriptions of Dany's three eggs. As I said, I can't remember where I read this, if it is true, or even if is relevant at all but I just thought I would put it out there...

Might those three eggs have been passed down to other family members when those women died? The egg that Elaena is holding in her Wiki portrait looks white and gold, i.e. like Aerion's. There are only a finite number of eggs, so I think it makes sense that when a family member dies, their egg passes to someone else. It also makes you wonder what actually happened to the eggs — it seems like in the D&E stories, the family had a pretty solid inventory for them. I'm wondering how they go from knowing that Egg A is with Person B at Place C, to losing them altogether to the point where Viserys and Dany never even think about eggs and it's a huge deal for Dany to receive them. Maybe all of them were involved in the Summerhall incident (i.e. use all the eggs to up the chances of hatching at least one), the family presumed that they were destroyed but really they were salvaged (by who?) and smuggled out.

Its possible that Illyrio did get those eggs from Asshai, since dragons are mentioned stirring in that place.

But it makes more intuitive sense that the reason the eggs were able to hatch was because they weren't as old as Illyrio said they were, i.e. they were newer eggs from the family collection and not petrified egg rocks.

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