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Merging AFFC and ADWD


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#1 albcann

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 08:49 AM

Hello all,

     New member of Westeros, although not a new fan of GRRM.  I am proud that I am one of the few who discovered this work shortly after ACOK came out in paperback in the late 1990's, before the HBO series was even an idea.  I probably have done what so many out there have done which is to reread all the previous books again when the new one comes out because there is so much to forget.  I am reading the series probably for the 3rd time to get up to speed before reading ADWD.  Has anyone out there re-spliced AFFC back into ADWD?  I'd love to be able to go back and forth between the books to see how they read chronologically.  Perhaps such a listing of the chapters of the two books cannot be posted until 8/12, when the ban on ADWD posts is lifted, but I'd love to see if someone has done it.  If not, I'm sure I''ll do it myself but it will be months before I get there as I am half way through ASOS now.

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 12:40 AM

I'm interested as I want to read them together I currently reading before I hit ADWD

#3 Karen Freeman-Smith

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 09:00 PM

I'm trying to reread both together and there are some crazy problems with timelines between the two books! I don't think they can be merged unless the chapters are reorganized within both books as well as between the two.

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 11:06 PM

I've been looking for a thread like this.  I am thinking of doing this with my next re-read, and quite frankly, am too lazy to do the heavy lifting myself. :)  

I'm kind of hoping someone will eventually come up with a timeline.  I know there is no way to get it 100% in order, in fact the individual books aren't exactly right, for obvious reasons, but this would be fun to try. I just know I'll never get around to doing the timeline myself.

#5 unBloodraven

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 10:21 PM

Check out the Global Timeline Thread. Errantbard and I both created Timelines which are posted in that thread.

http://asoiaf.wester...lobal-timeline/

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 12:36 PM

One reader has already done an early attempt at this.

A quick look shows it to be at least somewhat plausible.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 06:33 PM

that looks useful, I'll keep that in mind for my reread.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 08:36 AM

View Postdobegrrrl, on 06 August 2011 - 11:06 PM, said:

I've been looking for a thread like this.
Same here! A friend and I we were talking about this yesterday.
We were talking about reading AFfC chapters interspersed with chapters from ADwD, so I made a table listing all chapters from each book side by side.
But I’m not sure where in ADwD the time frame moves forward. In his ‘Cavil on Chronology’, Martin says:
A Dance with Dragons is a longer book than A Feast for Crows, and covers a longer time period. In the latter half of this volume, you will notice certain of the viewpoint characters from A Feast for Crows popping up again. And that means just what you think it means: the narrative has moved past the time frame of Feast,and the two streams have once again rejoined each other.”

The first chapter I found with a character from AFfC is ‘Jaime 49’. I also had a quick look at unBloodraven’s timeline PDF (amazing!) and Errant Bard’s timeline post ((amazing!), and it seems to fit. Does anyone know more about this? For instance, the exact spot where the books stop running parallel to each other?
I think it’s quite doable, and looking at the list with chapters from each book makes it much easier. I don’t think I can attach it here but I’m happy to share it if anyone is interested.
I have a feeling I’m forgetting something...
Anyway, always great to read these posts!
And happy to see the idea of reading them like this is on people’s minds.

#9 dobegrrrl

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:26 AM

I should add that I would probably only do this as a re-read.  First time around I think the books should be read in order so that you aren't spoiled by some of the events in ADwD that are better explained in AFfC

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 07:20 PM

Amazing idea, if someone comes up with this, I look forward to it extremely, though it will be very cumbersome for me to read them as such right now, as I only have ASoS onward on Nook :/ moved crosscountry and left my copies at home for ASoS and AFfC, somehow brought AGoT and ACoK though and moved at release time for ADwD so didn't have spending money for a $35 book at that point

#11 LuisDantas

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:34 PM

I lack direct familiarity with the Nook, but I've read the first three books via an Amazon 4-book bundle.  It allows one to pinpoint places in the text by specifying a position number (almost 76 thousand for the whole bundle, so it is quite specific, more so than page numbers in fact).

If a similar numeric position system is available for the Nook edition, then it shouldn't be too hard to build a navigating table to help in alternating between the AFFC and ADWD parts.

#12 Mark Antony

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 06:02 PM

just wanted to say i am about to do this on my re-read since i just finished ASOS.

i'm following this
http://www.sffchroni...tml#post1516518

#13 trapyoung

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:04 PM

I'm in the midst of my first re-read and I just completed A Storm of Swords. Instead of trudging through A Feast for Crows again and be relegated to going to Wikipedia (etc.) to remember certain prophecies and characters/motivations, I decided to jump straight from Book 3 to Book 5. I will probably re-read Book 4 afterwards and then perhaps go through the Book 5 chapters of Arya, Cersei (and other Book 4 POV's) again.

Currently, I'm through the first six chapters of A Dance with Dragons and I'm enjoying the the re-read more than my initial read through. It's pretty impressive that the character voice and tone are virtually identical to A Storm of Swords. I guess during my initial read through I was too long away from many of the POV characters that are put off until Book 5 and it jarred my reading experience. But that being said, I'm glad I saved this for the re-read and not the initial read through.

#14 AegonSnow

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Posted Yesterday, 09:36 AM

The good ending for revised Book AFoC

"The Captain of the Guards responds, "Someone told. Someone always tells.""

nice, cliff hangery of an Ending....