Werthead is a character!
Posted 30 August 2011 - 10:47 PM
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Posted 31 August 2011 - 08:20 PM
I have to settle for Garlan, kinda close.
Though, in all seriousness, Garlan was named long before Galen Marek.
Posted 03 September 2011 - 08:17 PM
Posted 04 September 2011 - 01:48 AM
Posted 05 September 2011 - 07:43 AM
promised. Ser Patrek was a nuisance and now this.. What's next? Ran and Linda, the Dothraki Screamers?
And for the record: the stooges reference was the worst of them all
Posted 05 September 2011 - 08:12 AM
Then it's been compromised since AGoT. You're still reading, so I don't think anyone's worried about your feelings.
Posted 05 September 2011 - 08:41 AM
I wouldn't expect it, especially not here
Anyway, it's no biggie. I haven't any high hopes that Winds ever sees the light of day, judging from George's latest efforts, and even if it does I will be comfortably middle-aged and won't give a damn any more about some dude on an Internet board.
But right now, I think it's cheap and lame.
Posted 05 September 2011 - 08:48 AM
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Edited by Knurk, 05 September 2011 - 08:36 PM.
Posted 06 September 2011 - 02:16 AM
Was there a reference to Monty Pithon in Dances with Dragon too? I missed that
Edited by UnGregorian_Chanting, 06 September 2011 - 02:16 AM.
Posted 06 September 2011 - 03:10 AM
But Lord Eddard felt that the Three Stooges reference in AGoT "compromised" the work, which is the point I was responding to -- if references to things outside of the story have been "compromising" the work for him all along, but he's still reading the series, then it must not matter very much, yes?
Which Lord Eddard admitted was the case -- "It's no biggie", as he says. Fair enough.
What's with these over-the-top responses to a pretty unobjectionable point, anyways?
Edited by Ran, 06 September 2011 - 04:05 AM.
Posted 06 September 2011 - 04:20 AM
This is a congrats thread so it is bad form for people to be complaining that they don't like authors doing this. Authors do this all the time. I think it is an honor to be named in a book and not just any book in Wert's case but a George R.R. Martin book!
I've noticed a recent uptick in contrariety in the forums.
Posted 06 September 2011 - 04:56 AM
As Ran remarked, I don't mind other fantasy references too much - if they are subtle - , Vance, Tolkien, Lovecraft, etc, because in one way or another they are fantasy, fictional creations in which the reader immerses himself.
Westeros for me is a fantastic creation, a believable world, and heavy-handed references like the three Stooges or American Football rip me out of this world and destroy the enchantment. I don't want Westeros to degenerate into a lame Discworld clone where credibility is sacrificed for a cheap laugh.
But I am complaining about eggs that haven't been hatched yet and probably won't be for a long time. Let's see how "Adam" is implemented when/if Winds has been published.
And to this:
Please refrain from chastising others who post critical observations in a thread that discusses Werthead being a character. This thread is not titled "Congrats Werthead, only positive comments please". Feel free to open such a thread, then you can complain.
Posted 06 September 2011 - 05:01 AM
I think it makes more sense to go and start a separate thread about references and homages in a critical light, than to use this thread for that purpose.
ETA: Apparently I was not clear enough with the above, so I'll make it more explicit:
[Mod] Thread created to share cool news and congratulate Werthead on getting a reference in TWoW? Post in that spirit or don't post. Start another thread. It's the polite thing to do. [/Mod]
Edited by Ran, 06 September 2011 - 08:31 AM.
Posted 06 September 2011 - 04:57 PM