[ADwD spoilers] Winds of Winter speculation, II
Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:22 AM
Someone sent Gendry a copy of Robert's hammer (AGOT), and even if he lost it I imagine Robert's real hammer is still around KL. I want to see Gendry smash that big spike into whatever is under that helmet.
An alternitive I would like to see is for Bran to override the controls and gain FULL control of Robert Strong. Bran wanted to be a knight, he has no use of his body, so why not steal the biggest baddest body in the land. If I was a warg, thats what I would do anyway.
Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:02 AM
Posted 18 April 2012 - 03:32 PM
Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:26 PM
The symbolism of that... since they got the names of the girls Ramsay tortured and killed...
Nice catch. GRRM can't do anything but this.
Well, I'm hoping Jon-as-Ghost gets in on the action. But this might be better. Still, I've been imagining Ghost's silent pursuit for a while now, and part of me is reluctant to add the baying of hounds.
Edited by darrylzero, 19 April 2012 - 11:15 AM.
Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:38 AM
Oh, your 'silent persuit' line made me think of something else that might be cool in WoW. With Jon dead/warged/whathaveyou, do you think we might hear Ghost howl for the first time? I imagine it would give pause to every Black Brother that hears it.
Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:34 PM
Although, as far as I remember, the soldiers that arrive at the village where Stannis is stranded during the snow storm are mounted, which doesn't seem likely for swamp people (which is where I would have imagined them showing up). That doesn't mean that the crannogmen won't enter the picture.
Posted 30 June 2012 - 03:24 PM
Most immediately, Cersei will win her trial as Ser Robert Strong kills Lancel who is eager to incriminate Cersei and has a lot of faith. But though Cersei wins, Margaery loses and Mace Tyrell is forced to flee Kings Landing with her, the Faith in hot pursuit. Meanwhile, Euron has moved from the Shield Islands onto Highgarden which leads to Mace being trapped between the iron born and the Faith. Cersei is regaining her power and madness as she becomes regent again and is beseeched by an injured but recovering Loras to sent aid to Mace. Cersei declines, feigning support of the faith and the power of Highgarden is ultimately crushed. Loras plots revenge. Cersei will also be a bit of a tyrant in an attempt to regain respect through fear after her humilliating walk.
Meanwhile, Victarion attacks the Yunkish fleet and uses his horn to bind the two dragons to his will. With no Daenerys he reluctantly leaves after the dragons burn the rest of the ships. He proceeds to head back to Westeros where he sets his dragons on Storms End, which has been taken by Jon Connington and Aegon (which I think adds a fair amount of irony - dragons vs a Targaryen)
Back across the Narrow Sea, Dany returns to her city with a new khalasar as war breaks out. With the power of Drogon she soon smashes the Yunkish but at some point somethings going to go down with either Ser Barristan or Jorah Mormant and Daaerio will of course die. Brown Ben Plum will turn his cloak (saving Tyrion) but Dany kills him anyway in her anguish and appoints Jorah as the leader of the company (assuming hes still alive by this point). Preparations will begin to return to Westeros, her largest force being her Dothraki (going back etc as mentioned somewhere here).
To sum up the North, Jon is dead and Stannis wins. Oh and the others have the Horn and destroy the wall but the Red Preistess will escape with Ghost/Jon (His name is Ghost, thats a very obvious clue in my opinion). Davos will encounter problems wherever it is he's gone but he'll find Rickon and Osha and everythings rosy for once.
As for jaime, he's captured and tortured and becomes increasingly obvious that Cat is insane. Brienne, free now, gives in to her feelings for Jaime and they escape across the narrow sea to Bravos. It is there that a fatally injured Brienne prays for cat to be put to rest... and the Faceless One hears. Their latest pupil is sent back to Westeros not knowing who her target truly is on her final test if you get my drift.
Cersei is of course worried about Jaime and sends Ser Robert Strong off to find him to keep the knight away from the Martell that will be arriving shortly. He immediately goes back to his old pillaging ways until he comes to a particular sept where a certain acolyte takes up a sword against him...
With Ser Robert gone, Loras plots his revenge and ultimately kills Tommen, mirroring Jaime further as a Kingslayer. Perhaps he may even kill Qyburn (possibly the new Hand by this point) which draws even more similarities. Loras also plans to kill Cersei but as he cuts down the plump Ser Borous, Cersei stabs him in the back. Bear in mind that Loras is already injured so less of a fighter. Meanwhile Jaime has returned to King's landing (alone and anguished about Brienne's death). He rushes to the Red Keep and in the confusion, kills Cersei for all of her atrocites (perhaps even more recent ones shes committed in the meantime).
Something will also happen down in Old Town, perhaps an injured Randyll Tarly retreats there after accompanying Mace only to find his son there. Also, theres all that happening from the prolouge for A Feast for Crows (Jaquin?)
Sorry for the ridiculous length, but what do you think? (And fixed a terrible mistake where I referred to Rickon as Bran...)
Edited by Wolf-Lord, 07 July 2012 - 07:24 AM.
Posted 01 July 2012 - 05:17 PM
I don't think Loras would be in King's Landing at that point, the rest is plausible, although I think it will be entirely different.
You assume Aegon isn't going to do anything but take Storm's End, which is highly doubtful.
Edited by Babeldygob, 01 July 2012 - 05:18 PM.
Posted 01 July 2012 - 09:20 PM
Posted 01 July 2012 - 09:20 PM
Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:56 PM
Ned was a major character in AGoT but died. So can Jon
Wow your first (and only) post so far is a downer...
Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:44 AM
Im mainly basing Loras still being there as hes a Kingsguard member and terribly injured etc. And yeah, it will be much different as I think what I've written is way too optimistic for a start. I think characters are going to start dropping like flys (flies?). Also I really hope less happens that what I've described otherwise I'll be learning what happens from HBO rather than GRRM.
As for Aegon, well after looking at the map (and I'll be damned if I don't do this properly), I can't really see anything for him to do once he has Storms End. Marching straight on King's Landing seems the next logical step if the power of Highgarden is gone. Perhaps they try to gain the support of Dorne, or they may even be attacked by Dorne who are trying to cover their tracks in supporting Dany by capturing the 'false' dragon for the Iron Throne, not believing he is really who he says he is anyway. Then during the seige Victarion attcks. Possibly as a twist, this happens, Jon Connington dies and then Dorne rescue the surviving Aegon who is now irrefutably a Targaryen as he survived the dragon fire. But as I was saying, I can't really see what they would do next besides try to raise an army and with Dorne being the only close super power there's little else they could do than twiddle their thumbs and attack minor towns/castles.
Also, I never followed those three betrayals very closely as it was never definitively explained. She was just sort of guessing really. But my point is, could Tyrion be the third betryal (love) as he finds Tysha leading to him leaving Dany at a critical moment?
Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:31 AM
In a crackpot statement, she's going to be an agent of the Great Other (not R'hallor) and use them to destroy the wall therefore helping the others.