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Ser Duncan's progeny

Theres supposed to be 4

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#1 Which Tyler

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 05:28 AM

Right, supposedly there are 4 of Ser Duncan's progeny kicking around Westeros.
Let's speculate on who they are.

Brienne - almost certain


Hodor
Small Paul
Lem
Grenn
Left
Right
Gregor
Sandor

Any other suggestions? How likely are any of the above (I've put my suggestions in my order of likelihood)

Edited by Which Tyler, 14 September 2011 - 10:20 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2011 - 05:32 AM

I don't understand why there should be any progeny of Duncan's around. And why is Brienne almost certain? Because of the shield? I'm confused.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:01 AM

Guessing

Brienne
Sandor
Gregor
Hodor



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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:09 AM

I don't understand why there should be any progeny of Duncan's around. And why is Brienne almost certain? Because of the shield? I'm confused.

It was mentioned somewhere as a So Spake Martin - and that there were 4 (or possibly 4 that we've met).
Brienne - size, nature, shield (and choice of shield)

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:25 AM

Ah, ok. Thanks!

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:13 AM

I agree with Rapsie on:

Brienne
Sandor
Gregor
Hodor

Edited by Sand Flower in the Snow, 14 September 2011 - 07:14 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:30 AM

I'm going with :
brienne
hodor
left and right
but I don't think the cleganes are descendants of dunk

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:51 AM

Wouldn't Brienne be too young? I'm not familiar with the Dunk and Egg stories, but Duncan is supposed to have died at Summerhall, right? I thought her shield was just symbolizing her status as the last true knight or something.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 08:00 AM

Also Brienne is described as The Hound with teats. Maybe more than just an offhand remark? Possibly, distantly related?

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 08:04 AM

Hound: No real knight

Brienne: No real knight

Brienne = Hound with teats

Edited by Cotter_Pyke, 14 September 2011 - 08:48 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2011 - 09:00 AM

When did he say there were four? All I was aware of was that he'd left a clue in AFFC, and that's got to be Brienne.

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Thematically and height-wise, Sandor and Gregor fit. Sandor, Brienne and Dunk are the 'true knights' who aren't actual knights, making Gregor the black sheep: technically a knight, but with all the honour and chivalry of a tin-opener. As happy as it would make me, I'd like to see the SSM where he specifies that there are four.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 09:54 AM

I don't understand why people always list the Cleganes. The Cleganes grandfather was a kennelmaster at the Rock who saved Tytos Lannister from a lion and was given lands and a holdfast.

So unless Dunk had a part time job at Casterly Rock while he was serving in the Kingsguard then the Cleganes are not his offspring.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:05 AM

I don't understand why people always list the Cleganes. The Cleganes grandfather was a kennelmaster at the Rock who saved Tytos Lannister from a lion and was given lands and a holdfast.

So unless Dunk had a part time job at Casterly Rock while he was serving in the Kingsguard then the Cleganes are not his offspring.


They also required a Grandmother and Mother if my knowledge of biology is correct. Either could be a descendent of Dunk's. Unless it goes completely the other way and it's the two jousting dwarves at the Purple Wedding or Littlefinger!

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:14 AM

They also required a Grandmother and Mother if my knowledge of biology is correct. Either could be a descendent of Dunk's. Unless it goes completely the other way and it's the two jousting dwarves at the Purple Wedding or Littlefinger!

only 1 grandmother? not to mention another grandfather.
Dunc was also a while ago, could very easily be a great-grand-father; or even a double-great.


Edit: this is where I first came across it; and quite possibly why the Cleganes get mentioned (my suggestion back then was as a joke; but hey, they're 7' +, so got to be options)

Edited by Which Tyler, 14 September 2011 - 10:20 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:19 AM

Nan's children would be as lowborn as granddaddy Clegane, and of a similar age.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 11:30 AM

There are clues that Hodor and Brienne are his.

I haven't seen any other hints other than "being tall" for anyone else. My guess would be left and right, but that's just a guess.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 01:34 PM

I can't remember who were Left and Tall. ¿Anybody could tell me?

Let's see, if Sandor is, so it'd be Gregor, that gives us 2. But I don't think they're.

And if Brienne is one, we have 4. Remember that she has a father, and it's alive, so that's how we'd have the four.

So, you should always count Brienne as 2, or maybe there are 5, in that case the fifth for me it'd be Hodor.
But, as I don't think that the Clegane's are, I would only have 3. And maybe to try to know who is the fourth we should wait for the next chapter of D&E tales.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 01:43 PM

I can't remember who were Left and Tall. ¿Anybody could tell me?

Left and Right are a pair of men-at-arms sworn to House Tyrell, so nicknamed because the Queen of Thorns can't tell them apart. Their real names are Erryk and Arryk, but their surname is never mentioned. They're seven feet tall and hench.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 01:44 PM

*crackpot* Ser Arryk and Ser Erryk, aka Left and Right might be proof the Dunk paid the Red Widow a visit later in life (or perhaps she took advantage of an unconsious man, which is techically possible). They have his size and her coloring. */crackpot*

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 01:46 PM

*crackpot* Ser Arryk and Ser Erryk, aka Left and Right might be proof the Dunk paid the Red Widow a visit later in life (or perhaps she took advantage of an unconsious man, which is techically possible). They have his size and her coloring. */crackpot*

Sure you're not confusing them with the Redwyne twins, Horas and Hobber? They're meant to be ginger, but I don't think Left and Right's colouring is mentioned. (Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.)