spyrelx Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 In the final Catelyn chapter of ACOK, Jaime says to her: "I will say, I think it passing odd that I am loved by one for a kindness I never did, and reviled by so many for my finest act." This comes right after a discussion of him being a "kingslayer" and the recounting of Aerys brutality, so I assume the "finest act" for which he is "reviled by so many" is the killing of Aerys. But what is the "kindness he never did" and who is the one who loves him for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmflavius Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 It's explained later in the series. If you're thinking about it, you will realize it, but here's a hint:Because it's a kindness he never did, but took credit for, it means he lied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyrelx Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Thanks. I'm not going to read the hint. Better to puzzle it through along the way. Thanks very much though for the quick reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I was confused by this at first as well. I'm actually still not sure why he calls it a kindness. I would figure that Tyrion would hate him for it, but I guess he was actually still grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flame7926 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'm most of the way through aDwD, so can someone explain this to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmflavius Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'm most of the way through aDwD, so can someone explain this to me.His lie to Tyrion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I'm most of the way through aDwD, so can someone explain this to me.The way I always interpreted it is thatthe kindness he never did was buying Tyrion a prostitute, Tysha. Tyrion loves him for that, even though it turned out so badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Does it not seem that the kindness he never did and his finest act are the same the way that is said though? The finest act saving Kings Landing from fire and the kindness he never did killing Aery's also...but who is that kindness too? I'm no so sure I buy the Tyrion thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Beyond The Wall Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Firstly I should point that I am still reading ASOS and I haven't read any of the "spoilered" comments in this post.I had to go back and re-read that paragraph because I remembered it made sense whan I read it for the first time.But now that I read it again it doesn't make sense anymore...maybe because I had overlooked at the word "loved". :bang:What I am about to write is a minor spoiler for someone who is still reading ACOK so...Just before that, he had told Catelyn the story of Lords Rickard and Brandon Stark, and their hideous deaths. So from what I understood is that when he killed Aerys he did his "finest act" , and he didn't do it to avenge the Starks, so he didn't do a kindness to be loved....but he couldn't mean anyone from the Stark family because no one "loved" him...Damn I am confused now.... :dunce: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Avalanta Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Firstly I should point that I am still reading ASOS and I haven't read any of the "spoilered" comments in this post.I had to go back and re-read that paragraph because I remembered it made sense whan I read it for the first time.But now that I read it again it doesn't make sense anymore...maybe because I had overlooked at the word "loved". :bang:What I am about to write is a minor spoiler for someone who is still reading ACOK so...I just finished ACOK last week and of course I'm reading ASOS now and just like you I have totally overlooked that part; now I have to go and re-read that chapter as well. But this is no big Deal, cause I absolutely love this Series and I'm reading it in english...even though it's not my native tongue, maybe that's why I haven't noticed it. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya-Underfoot Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I'm baffled by the spoilery explanations of a "kindness." In what way could what he led Tyrion to believe he'd done possibly be construed as a kindness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittykatknits Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Full explanation below, contains spoilers through SOS.His finest act is killing the Mad King, the full reason why is revealed in SOS. For the record, I agree that it is his finest act. The kindness is his role with Tysha. Jaime told Tyrion that Tysha was a whore, on orders from Tywin. At the end of Storm, Jaime comes clean with Tyrion and tells him the truth. Tysha really was a crofter's daughter, not a whore. The idea is that it was a lie but kindly meant. He lied to Tyrion in the hope it would spare him further pain with what happened to Tysha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Richard Horpe Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I still dont buy it Spoiler So his kindness is paying a whore to sleep with tyrion, but in actuality he never did this. I understand what you are saying and I almost buy it but Jaime says he is loved by one for a kindness he never did. I don't really think tyrion loves him for buying him a whore... tyrion loves him for being his brother and not treating him like scum/looking down on him like others so often do. therefore I sitll don't really believe this is what Jaime is talking about. It could be but then its badly worded and misconstrued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedog42 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 What if Jaime is referring to a Stark? The other theories work, but could Jaime be referring to Lyanna or Brandon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Harrenhal Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I have read up about halfway through asos so this may contain spoilers up to that point. There is evidence to go along with the tyrion argument, such as jaimes quote "and tyrion, his little brother, who loved him for a lie" but i thought he was referring to something else. In the scene in the tub at harrenhal with jaime and brienne and he is telling her the story about aerys, he says "Well a sword's more merciful than fire but I don't think Garigus much appreciate the kindness I showed him." In that context I though a kindness I never did would be allowing somebody to burn, perhaps rickard or brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightAurora Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I just finished ACOK and starting ASOS and the quote struck me as something is wrong with it. I also noticed that as Jaime got drunker he became more cocky and sly and forming his answers carefully. in which case I think up until a certain point he was honest, but towards the end of the conversation his answers are mixed with lies. I do agree the kindness is referring to tyrion because Tyrion truly only loves his brother and Tyrion himself has stated he would do anything for his brother because his brother showed him kindness and love while others showed disgust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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