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Jaime -- "a kindness I never did" ?


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In the final Catelyn chapter of ACOK, Jaime says to her: "I will say, I think it passing odd that I am loved by one for a kindness I never did, and reviled by so many for my finest act."

This comes right after a discussion of him being a "kingslayer" and the recounting of Aerys brutality, so I assume the "finest act" for which he is "reviled by so many" is the killing of Aerys. But what is the "kindness he never did" and who is the one who loves him for it?

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Does it not seem that the kindness he never did and his finest act are the same the way that is said though? The finest act saving Kings Landing from fire and the kindness he never did killing Aery's also...but who is that kindness too? I'm no so sure I buy the Tyrion thing...

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Firstly I should point that I am still reading ASOS and I haven't read any of the "spoilered" comments in this post.

I had to go back and re-read that paragraph because I remembered it made sense whan I read it for the first time.

But now that I read it again it doesn't make sense anymore...maybe because I had overlooked at the word "loved". :bang:

What I am about to write is a minor spoiler for someone who is still reading ACOK so...

Just before that, he had told Catelyn the story of Lords Rickard and Brandon Stark, and their hideous deaths. So from what I understood is that when he killed Aerys he did his "finest act" , and he didn't do it to avenge the Starks, so he didn't do a kindness to be loved....but he couldn't mean anyone from the Stark family because no one "loved" him...

Damn I am confused now.... :dunce:

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Firstly I should point that I am still reading ASOS and I haven't read any of the "spoilered" comments in this post.

I had to go back and re-read that paragraph because I remembered it made sense whan I read it for the first time.

But now that I read it again it doesn't make sense anymore...maybe because I had overlooked at the word "loved".

:bang:

What I am about to write is a minor spoiler for someone who is still reading ACOK so...

I just finished ACOK last week and of course I'm reading ASOS now and just like you I have totally overlooked that part; now I have to go and re-read that chapter as well. But this is no big Deal, cause I absolutely love this Series and I'm reading it in english...even though it's not my native tongue, maybe that's why I haven't noticed it. ;)

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Full explanation below, contains spoilers through SOS.

His finest act is killing the Mad King, the full reason why is revealed in SOS. For the record, I agree that it is his finest act. The kindness is his role with Tysha. Jaime told Tyrion that Tysha was a whore, on orders from Tywin. At the end of Storm, Jaime comes clean with Tyrion and tells him the truth. Tysha really was a crofter's daughter, not a whore. The idea is that it was a lie but kindly meant. He lied to Tyrion in the hope it would spare him further pain with what happened to Tysha.

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I still dont buy it

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So his kindness is paying a whore to sleep with tyrion, but in actuality he never did this. I understand what you are saying and I almost buy it but Jaime says he is loved by one for a kindness he never did. I don't really think tyrion loves him for buying him a whore... tyrion loves him for being his brother and not treating him like scum/looking down on him like others so often do. therefore I sitll don't really believe this is what Jaime is talking about. It could be but then its badly worded and misconstrued.

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I have read up about halfway through asos so this may contain spoilers up to that point.

There is evidence to go along with the tyrion argument, such as jaimes quote "and tyrion, his little brother, who loved him for a lie" but i thought he was referring to something else. In the scene in the tub at harrenhal with jaime and brienne and he is telling her the story about aerys, he says "Well a sword's more merciful than fire but I don't think Garigus much appreciate the kindness I showed him." In that context I though a kindness I never did would be allowing somebody to burn, perhaps rickard or brandon.

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I just finished ACOK and starting ASOS and the quote struck me as something is wrong with it. I also noticed that as Jaime got drunker he became more cocky and sly and forming his answers carefully. in which case I think up until a certain point he was honest, but towards the end of the conversation his answers are mixed with lies. I do agree the kindness is referring to tyrion because Tyrion truly only loves his brother and Tyrion himself has stated he would do anything for his brother because his brother showed him kindness and love while others showed disgust.

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