The depiction of LGBT characters in fictionLGBT
Posted 25 December 2011 - 03:10 PM
Moving on -> First girl-girl kiss on TV is Star Trek DS 9 right?
Posted 25 December 2011 - 04:11 PM
We ran into a lot of this shit in Iraq. I always found it odd, because the islamic faith isn't too hip to the whole gay thing, but it was really, really prevalent with the local nationals. Anywho, we were helping with a school one day (inspecting it, ensuring it was up to code) and one of the volunteers relayed that they were having an issue that day because two kids (teenagers boys) were caught mid act. The dad's didn't mind that they were fucking, but they were really upset because the boys wouldn't come out an say who was buggering who. Seems being the fuckee was much, much worse than being the fucker. It all seemed odd to me.
The details are very hazy 8 years later, but in college I took a class on sexuality in the Americas, and the section on pre revolution Cuba had the same issue. It was only gay to receive. And that made sense in some way.
Posted 29 December 2011 - 06:06 PM
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 12:50 PM
I'd vaguely heard of them, but I still had to check both on wikipedia to see what they were.
Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:03 PM
Posted 30 December 2011 - 02:36 PM
I didn't think the L-word was that great because it was kind of a shitty show. There were only a couple of characters that were interesting and it felt like they were basically going down the list of lesbian stereotypes when doing the show. Mostly, it was a soap opera, not a fantasy/sci-fi story, and the whole focus was on lesbianism. Which was somewhat interesting but also somewhat bland.
Ultimately the characterizations sucked, period. I've heard much better about QaF.
Posted 30 December 2011 - 03:10 PM
LoB you heard in anything in your circles?
Posted 30 December 2011 - 05:05 PM
In whatever thread it was that broke that story here I made a similar comment. It does seem awfully convenient that they test the waters first with not only women instead of men, but two very attractive women.
Honestly I don't think it really matters if it was staged or not, as long as the women are actually in a relationship. That's what people do when faced with finding a figurehead for something potentially controversial, they find an upstanding model citizen with a spotless record and a winning smile. Also, I don't really see a problem with the couple being women. The only real difference is that there will probably be a sudden rush of military themed pornography. My experience is of course slanted but I don't think bigots are any easier on gay women than they are on gay men. And once wannabe liberals get over the fact that 'ohmigod two girls are kissing, that is sooo hot' they get hostile for reasons currently unknown to me. Though I'd guess it's because they are ignorant and arrogant bastards who cannot believe that a woman would not like the almighty cock. /rant
Posted 30 December 2011 - 05:37 PM
On my second ship, which had more women than men, there was again a great deal of hostility towards anyone perceived as gay or feminine as a man and at one physical confrontation that I witnessed and ended up going to Captains Mast. On the other hand, there were several female "friends" that people joked about as being lesbians and no one thought it a big deal at all. My division also had a female petty officer that joked constantly about her being gay in a half serious tone, whereas a male doing that in the ships that I was in would never have been in a safe position doing so.
So from my admittedly small view of the US Navy over 4 years and 2 ships, I think that the true test will be a male/male open relationship.
Edited by Grogsmash, 30 December 2011 - 05:38 PM.
Posted 30 December 2011 - 06:12 PM
I think that the true test will be a male/male open relationship.
Posted 30 December 2011 - 06:26 PM
I don't think it was staged. I think it may have been staged, and that it, depending on their personal histories, it makes sense to choose them. Yes I find it insulting, but I find the idea that because they were lesbians it must be staged just as insulting. All that really matters is the fact that there is a positive image of a pair of gay women with good careers being able to kiss on camera because of the support of their heterosexual colleagues. It's an incredibly positive thing, not that it might have been staged, but that they were allowed to do it at all.
Posted 31 December 2011 - 09:42 PM
Posted 01 January 2012 - 12:12 AM
This is the part of the thread were I recommend Buffy and people throw rocks at me.
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