Edited by Aimee Snow, 31 December 2011 - 07:44 PM.
Cersei and "the new beautiful queen to cast her down"AFFC still reading
Posted 31 December 2011 - 07:43 PM
Posted 03 January 2012 - 06:30 PM
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 12:47 PM
For a real dark horse, how about Asha? She could become queen of the Ironborn and could easily pull Cersei down if they overrun Westeros.
I don't think Margaery has the horsepower to do it. There is some speculation about her brother Loras; he's pretty enough, but is he a queen?
Posted 05 January 2012 - 01:03 PM
Margaery, Arianne, Sansa, and Daenerys.
Margaery is in the best position to do this at the moment but she is already suspected by Cersei and has the problem of being a too obvious possibility. Cannot be ruled out, though, as she might be the one.
Daenerys could also fulfill the criteria rather easily. However, I suspect that Cersei will be driven out of King's Landing or dead by the time that Daenerys arrives in Westeros. She also has the problem of being too obvious (a queen does have to be "obvious," so this objection may not matter as much as usual). If Daenerys first landed at Casterly Rock it would be easy to see how she could seize Cersei's remaining interests.
Arianne might also fit the bill. Ambitious and might pull something off if the Tyrell-Lannister alliance totally crumbles and the Lannisters are dethroned.
The trouble with Sansa is that very drastic changes would have to occur to her situation to make it so that she would directly cast Cersei down and take "all that she holds dear." Possible, but no clear route to fulfill the prophecy at present unless LF makes a move to establish her as the Queen of Westeros.
Longer shot possibilities:
Melisandre - If Stannis ultimately seizes the throne it is possible that Melisandre might play an instrumental role in the Lannister overthrow and sacrifice some of what Cersei holds dear. Not a literal queen but is considered by some to act as Stannis's "true queen."
Asha - Maybe, but would require very drastic plot twists to enable this to happen. Least likely of the ones listed here in my opinion. If Euron does succeed conquering King's Landing, it is likely that he (and perhaps his queen, whoever that might be/if he even has one) will be the main power eliminating Cersei, if the Tyrells have not already made her a virtual prisoner.
The only realistic or remotely possible contendors at present seem to be those discussed above. If it is someone else, the prophecy either must have an unexpected twist or there is some kind of well kept secret waiting to emerge.
Edited by The Sunset King, 05 January 2012 - 01:07 PM.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:32 AM
Arianne will never be a Queen now that we know Dorne is backing Dany and that she will be the heir to Sunspear so i can't see her doing much, nor Sansa, who i can't imagine killing kids, especially not kids she knows like Tommen.
Which leave Marge, who didn't seem to have the power or guts for that either, however it could be that Cersei has created a self fulfilling prophecy. By trying so hard to get rid of young Marge, she managed to cause her own downfall when the Church offs her. Just my tuppence.
Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:47 AM
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 11:32 AM
. . . I can't BELIEVE you wrote that.
Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:30 PM
Edited by Ser Barristan Stark, 10 January 2012 - 04:31 PM.
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Posted 04 February 2012 - 02:08 PM
I think the person to take down Cersei will be Marg, but only because she just has to sit back and do nothing. Cersei is killing herself.
Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:44 AM
If we look in retrospective she knows all the other players and is actively working against them to some degree, actively plotting against Margaey and seeking Sansa's capture as well as defeat Stannis/melisandre. She also wants to crush the ironmen and does interact with Dorne , so that leaves only Dany as the hidden player. maybe i'm overlooking it but there could be a hint there.
Posted 21 February 2012 - 04:30 AM
Do you remember where this is in the series? I would like to re-read this passage.