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[Gingerly Grumkin]

So Sam was hiking across the North for a few months, he killed a bunch of Others, and hardley ate anything. Then he went on this long ass ship ride, where he also never ate, but he threw up constantly, also he was banging Gilly mad times. So... How is he still fat?

[Ygrain]

Well, if you weigh 150 kg for the start and lose like 50, you're still be a fat person, though much slimmer than you used to :-) Add to it that most of the population are undernourished, so he probably seems fatter than he really is.

[The Shadowbinder]

Lol you have a way with words my friend... But I'm pretty sure Sam only killed a single Other and only banged Gilly once... And if that sounded like mad sex you've been doing it wrong

Edited by The Shadowbinder, 13 January 2012 - 01:15 PM.

[Arkash]

He weights 125 kgs at the beginning of Agot... must be around 95-100 by now !

[Gingerly Grumkin]

But Tyrell (Leo?) was like your fat.

[Ser Vaunt]

The Shadowbinder, on 13 January 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Lol you have a way with words my friend... But I'm pretty sure Sam only killed a single Other and only banged Gilly once... And if that sounded like mad sex you've been doing it wrong

Samwell killed whole armies of Others, fighting for 40 days and 40 nights. Then he went and had 40 more days and nights of straight wild, crazy love-making with Gilly.

Only then did he break his fast by baking every single Frey into a pie and then eating them.




Or at least, a thousand years from now, that's what the songs will say.

Edited by Ser Vaunt, 13 January 2012 - 01:21 PM.

[Arkash]

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Or at least, a thousand years from now, that's what the songs will say.

Bloody bards! ^^

[Lady Candace]

Honestly, who knows?

It's never made sense to me, but maybe he needs insulation for the Winter that is Coming?

Edited by Lady Candace, 13 January 2012 - 02:33 PM.

[littlespider]

Sam's probably naturally a pretty hefty guy. I can't imagine he's going to lose half his bodyweight, especially because he's going to study at the Citadel. He may gain much of it back as he assumes a more sedentary lifestyle.

[headtrip_honey]

Lady Candace, on 13 January 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

Honestly, who knows?

It's never made sense to me, but maybe he needs insulation for the Winter that is Coming?

There's a point where he notices he's lost weight, I think. But as Hurley on LOST said, "For the record, my belt HAS dropped a notch. I'm a big guy. It's gonna be a while before you're going to want to give me a piggy back ride."

[DavosBolton]

Samwell is one of my favorite characters and he never fails to put a smile on my face. I fondly remember the chapter when Sam was dreaming of wielding Heartsbane to cut his roast.

Therefore I would like to put in a good word for him and state that even at his "prime" Samwell was never as fat as lord Manderly.

And after all his struggles and being reborn as Sam the Slayer, I'm sure his belt has finally stopped slipping now.

His father Randyll Tarly is described as lean, so there is hope for poor Samwell!

[littlespider]

Sam's heft also doesn't seem to even approach that of Ilyrio, or the Yellow Whale.

Also, is it just me, or are there more men with excess fluff in these books than there are ladies? There's Fat Walda and Lysa, and their fluffiness doesn't seem to be morbid, nor is it described in quite as gross terms as Sam/Manderly/Ilyrio/YellowWhales's is.

I always pictured Fat Walda as rather cute. And Lysa just as sort of unhappily puffy.

Edited by littlespider, 13 January 2012 - 03:00 PM.

[headtrip_honey]

littlespider, on 13 January 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

Sam's heft also doesn't seem to even approach that of Ilyrio, or the Yellow Whale.

Also, is it just me, or are there more men with excess fluff in these books than there are ladies? There's Fat Walda and Lysa, and their fluffiness doesn't seem to be morbid, nor is it described in quite as gross terms as Sam/Manderly/Ilyrio/YellowWhales's is.

I always pictured Fat Walda as rather cute. And Lysa just as sort of unhappily puffy.

I love Fat Walda!  It seems to me that in ASOIAF the most unattractive trait a woman could have is being skinny or hairy. Selyse gets way more descriptive rancor than Fat Walda or even Lysa.

[Lady Candace]

Fat Walda

Roose is totally her bitch now.

But it's true, women aren't getting that much. Well I suppose you could add Genna Lannister-Frey to this list but she isn't described negatively either. Something like once beautiful but got big cause of having kids and age or something IIRC...?

[The Shadowbinder]

Illyrio/Manderlay/The Whale are all grown middle aged (at least) men who have been working on those lamprey pies all their life.

Sam is still a boy, give him time to get into his stride... I'm sure after a nice soujurn in Oldtown he'll start putting those capons and pork pies away again like a champ.

Randyl Tarly is lean because he's been kicking ass 24/7 since the day he was born, basically he is a medevial Chuck Norris.

[headtrip_honey]

Lady Candace, on 13 January 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

Fat Walda

Roose is totally her bitch now.

But it's true, women aren't getting that much. Well I suppose you could add Genna Lannister-Frey to this list but she isn't described negatively either. Something like once beautiful but got big cause of having kids and age or something IIRC...?

"Genna Lannister had been a shapely woman in her youth, always threatening to overflow her bodice. Now the only shape she had was square. Her face was broad and smooth, her neck a thick pink pillar, her bosom enormous. She carried enough flesh to make two of her husband."

[Ser Amoc]

i was hoping this thread was about wyman. his obesity saving his life is classic.

[All Men Must Rhyme]

Sam's not fat. He's just big boned.

Ser Amoc, on 30 March 2012 - 03:42 AM, said:

i was hoping this thread was about wyman. his obesity saving his life is classic.

One of my favourite parts of that chapter Cut through four chins and still can't reach the throat. It's like armour.

[Queen Cersei I]

Crackpot theory:
9/10's of Samwell Tarley's body weight is, in fact, being carried in his fat pink mast.

This explains everything-- his utter immunity to diets, the irrational hatred of his own father (jealous of Samwell's imposing size), his landing of a doe eyed, nubile, buxom young wilding beauty who excites the lusts of Dolores Ed and others (and you just thought this was yet another moment of authorial vicarious living and/ or standard trope about the fat nerd getting the girl!)

In the end, it is simple-- Samwell Tarley= roughly 150 pounds

Samwell's mast= 100+ pounds.

[Queen Cersei I]

Jcooper, on 30 March 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

Sam's not fat. He's just big boned.




One of my favourite parts of that chapter Cut through four chins and still can't reach the throat. It's like armour.

GRRM's answer to critics who have rudely claimed that his lifestyle is dangerous and/ or he should jump on the stairmaster?