ManyFacedOne, on 19 January 2012 - 04:34 AM, said:
I disagree. One of the main things that drove Theon in the past, besides a need for love and approval, was his pride, which ulitmately lead to his downfall. Theon's pride has been broken now (along with his body) and he's been completely transformed by it. I don't see how he's selfish either, other than there's really no one he has to look out for but himself, but that was before Jeyne. He was clearly always sympathetic to her situation; he was just powerless to help her, for the most part. He did stick his neck out for her, though, and in the end, knowing what was waiting for him if he failed, risked his life to save her. So he was definitely aware of all the long term consequences of his actions. And he still was intent on helping her after their escape so it wasn't just about saving his own skin.
Strangely enough, I think Theon's more of a man now with his cock cut off than he was with one.
I agree with what your saying, Theon did help Jeyne. That's why earlier, I said Theon is still a "redeemable" character in my book. But in the end I do think he will need to pay for what he has done, with his life's blood.....but I am not opposed to the idea, of Theon being used to do "more good", before he must die(as long as he does die in the end, for what he has done)
I really do not buy into the theory of, "Theon King/Lord of the Iron Islands".
The only way that can happen, is if Euron dies. which I believe he will, but the Iron Islands will go to Asha, or at the very least Victarion.
As far as Asha calling another "Kingsmoot", on the grounds that Theon was not able to make his claim. I really don't see that happening either, because the Iron Islands are kind of like the Wildlings in a sense, they both follow strength. Theon would never be viewed as "strong enough" to rule the Iron Islands, especially after the way Ramsey left him(he is less than half a man now).
However I can see Asha getting the Iron Islands, if she can convince some of them to support Stannis, and if Stannis ends up winning the Iron Throne, In that situation, I could see Asha getting the Iron Islands.
Similar situation for Victarion getting the Iron Islands. If Victarion does end up supporting Danaerys(and I believe he will), then I could see Danaerys, making him Lord of the Iron Islands(and giving Victarion charge over her Royal navy, as Master of ships), assuming Danaerys wins the Iron Throne, of course. (I don't know if I believe Dany will get the Iron Throne, but I do believe its very possible)
Edited by Ghost714, 19 January 2012 - 06:40 PM.