Just got to 'Red Wedding' don't know what to do now!
Posted 10 August 2012 - 01:07 PM
Posted 10 August 2012 - 01:09 PM
That's what makes the books in general so superior to most fantasy fare. Ned Stark got executed because that was really the most logical thing to happen to him based on his actions. Robb Stark ran into the Red Wedding, again, because it was in most ways the most logical outcome of the preceding course of events.
I prefer that kind of truth. It's far better than the heroes being saved by a deus ex machina, or some unrealistic event or plot twist that justifies an unwarranted escape. Both Ned and Robb "deserved" to die based on the situations they put themselves in; but few authors would have been courageous enough to give them what they deserved.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 03:43 PM
By the time I first got into the series, trusting the good judgement of a friend of mine, I was a rather experience reader. I had read around two hundred books, and most of the classics due to my line of work and study. So when Ned died, I was surprised. The overall idea of "the game of thrones" was very appealing to me, although the magic bits still felt a bit out of place (which they don't, nowadays), and even though I'm not a particular find of GRRM writing capabilities, his ability for good characters and dialog really caught my attention. Ned dies, and I'm all like "Ok, that's a shame. He's such a nice guy, but sure, I'll go with the flow and see where this is going".
The body count started, and I was mostly sorry for the dead characters, but I felt they had accomplished their part. Did I feel that Robb would actually turn this war around? Yeah, I did. But then the omens started, and the scene in the House of the Undying really gave it away for me. From there on, I started spotting most of the events a mile away... to my sorrow, because I'm rather fond of surprises.
Robb died, I felt sad, but I just turned the page and kept on reading. It's a damn good chapter, even if it's rather obvious from the get go. It's like eating rotten food: first bite and you know it's going to end up in some very disturbing moments in the bathroom, but you let yourself believe that maybe there's not wrong. But there is!
I guess people never would have though he'd do a Ned 2.0, with his own son.
Posted 10 August 2012 - 03:45 PM
I started reading GoT just before the TV series and have carried on. Just got to the Red Wedding and I don't know what to do with myself. I thought I could see just where the plot was going, but what a thing to happen. Sorry, I'm not making much sense. I'm not even sure I want to carry on reading it anymore, don't know what to do with myself!
What to do?, finish the series would be a good start, unless Robb Stark being minus a head had a very profound effect on you.....
Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:39 AM
More. Frey. Pies.
Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:24 AM
I re-read the chapter a few times to make sure I'd understood what was going on properly - utter shock! My friend was reading it sneakily at work and had to run to the bathroom so nobody would ask her why she was crying, silly goose x
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 01:07 PM
I do wish the Starks and Tullys had been able to fight back more effectively, even in a losing cause. Cat only gets to off the halfwit Frey grandson (but makes up for it later, of course).
Off topic, the theme of crossbowmen being cast negatively. Jaime hates them, and at the wedding they're bad musicians. Must be more examples in the books.
Posted 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM
Don't make assumptions. Not everyone.
All it did for me was it made me rush to the PC in and check if GRRM really killed off what I thought was the designated protagonist. After that I was immediately back reading.
Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:15 PM