jarl the climber, on 05 February 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:
Let me say this about the idea of Jon being ressurected. There is only two character we see brought back from death by magic, Beric and Lady Stoneheart. Thoros actually brought back Beric by accident, he was actually giving Beric last rites and unCats revival is somehow tied to this. The other possible ressurection is Davos Seaworth, we know that Melasindre burned three men on Dragonstone, Ser Hubards sons and Lord Sunglass, right after the Blackwater battle, what was she trying to accomplish with this? When Davos is the rock he says he remembers that he was drowning and the next thing he knows he wakes up on the rock, next to a corpse and some wreckage. In the next chapter he tells Salla that he got under the chain and swam to the rock. This is unusual, Davos isn't a liar, why didn't he tell Saan the truth? He was trying to covince Saan that he had been sent back for a reason, to kill Mel, why not give him the best evidence? Perhaps because he realized how preposterous it sounded, how could he be alive if he drowned. So I think Mel brought him back without realizing it just like Thoros with Beric and that Davos's fingerbones played a role somehow, might even give his body the illusion of being alive. The point is I don't think Mel knows how to ressurect people, if it happens it will be an accident or unintended. Its also intereting that the 3 people she burned on Dragonstone died for protecting the sept or the 7 gods, and Davos believes the 7 sent him back to kill Mel at least at first but he only gives that up because he can't. Beric is also moved by a deep sense of duty and religion, so Jon would be a strong candidate, him and Davos and Stannis are also the only men we know of who she has approched about making shadow babies, they are the only ones whos life fires are strong enough. Can definitely see Mel frying Bowen Marsh and company if she gets the chance, if Jon is delirious she might try to make a shadow creature by making him think she is Ygritte. I noticed the thread aked how Jon would be ressurected so I'm thinking if he is it will be unintentionaly and we can't use Beric or unCat as a template.
I don't think Mel had anything to do with Davos surviving, he passed out and got washed ashore.
If there was any divine intervention likely the 7.
Jon won't be dead, I like the glamour theory above, not something that dawned on me. So that or that he didnt die - lots of clothes remember - fell unconcious and those stabbing him are attacked by wildlings before they finish the job.