wow, a lot of things were discussed in a day..! hard to catch up but finally here's what struck me the most:
Sandor & Tyrion are as diffrent from each other as day and night, and yet both of them have things in common, like the outcast rejection they receive and many more things, but @fossegrim's words let me wondering if Sandor embraced his "Hound" character because he wanted it that way or cause he was for some reason encountering mockery with the name and so he decided to do the "embrace whatever names men call you so they can never be used against you" speech tyrion gives jon..? i sort of thought at first that he was okay with the name, but when either joff called him dog or after the 2nd book where peasants call him dog, i didn't feel like he liked that nickname very much.
And as for the way Sandor talks to Sansa, yes he was very rude and used words which probably weren't to most high-born ladies liking, like cunt or teats. but that's just the way he speaks: roughly. i can sort of forgive him for those things cause i know he didn't say them particularly while he was w/ sansa to make her feel bad or something. of course all the other KG memebers and even Jaime used those words, but it really stands out here that SAndor never pretends to be anything he isn't around sansa, since we don't see him putting on a show and trying to be all pleasant and creating nice small talk.
Villemo, yes i don't imagine him going to Chataya's either. not even after he had the $ from the tourney.
And the topic of LF and Sandor was metioned earlier by Elba the Intoner, i think?? well, a lot of good comparisons and points were talked about, and they got me to thinking that another reason why i prefer Sandor to LF is cause we know that even though it broke his heart when he thought that sansa didn't want to leave with him, he didn't kidnapp her or anything of the sort. and if they ever meet again i bet that though he wouldn't like it much, he would respect once more her decision to chose for herself. but with LF we have him clinging to the utopia he created for himself when young and whenever things don't happen like he wanted he still manages to find explinations as to why he lost the girl: like, "it wasn't cat's fault that she didn't marry me. she was a tully and had a duty." and even when he may suspect that cat really doesn't care about him anymore and loves her husband, he still thinks, "Well at least i'll get her daughter" or something of the sort. he just won't let go and that is sort of annoying. sandor on the other hand was at first forced to give up his ideals of knights and innocence, but at least he grew out of it (not in the best of ways, but he did) and can now let the girl he loves choose what to do, while LF just doesn't seem the type to willingly respect either sansa or cat's choices...
hope i made sense
Edited by Caro99, 15 February 2012 - 07:35 PM.