Posted 22 February 2012 - 10:24 PM
Maryastone, your second to last post was SO great. You just pointed out many important things and I liked how you defended sandor being sansa’s ideal man- not pod (sorry to the pod fangirls out there. I really like his character, just now with sansa) or aegon or harry the heir.
But the point that I most enjoyed was where you mention how you’re sure Sandor wouldn’t be very interested in the arts of seduction. The man has lived in court for such a long time & we’ve never heard he fell for the girls who play around with men. i think that when he first met sansa he just dismissed her as another pretty girl who would be utterly foolish around guys and trying to impress every man she ever met with compliments and such, but then after the tourney he realizes that if sansa is nice with guys and everyone else, is not cause she is seeking something in return, but because she was generally nice in her soul. So this sort of breath of fresh air he hadn’t encountered in a long time threw him aback and he fell for it. Smiles, flattery and winks may serve for the kettleblacks or Robert, but sandor likes other things in women. Honesty, compassion, mutual respect. What worries me is that sansa as alayne becomes a real seducer (even if she is acting to get what she wants) and if sandor encounters her and sees her behave like that (whether it be with him or others), well he might get angry at her and turns all nasty again as he tries to bring her back to earth with what a fool she is making of herself- he may even say she resembles cersei now just to really piss her out.
About Sansa being possessive of Sandor, maybe this doesn’t seem like a straight statement of it, but in her second chapter of AFFC, when the lords of the vale come for a “visit”, the first time sansa sees them and starts describing them, she mentions how some of the men stood as tall as the hound. To me it sounded like she felt a grim pride regarding how impressive sandor was in person. & this just comes out of the blue in this chapter, so little things make her remember him. is that a sort of possessive behavior, maybe not that much but she isn’t around him so far for us to see how she’ll react to having him back at her side J
Welcome Fred Stark! Wow, this week was really cool since we got a lot of new people on the thread! Great J btw, does anybody know what happened to Faceless Girl and Lady Candance? Haven’t seen them around these posts for a while now.
Clover, you posted so many theories and all of them worked, so I just can’t seem to suspect which one will George go along with… But we know it will be good, if it happens, since so far their relationship has been dealt with pretty cleverly. Maybe since back at the red keep sandor just keep bumping into sansa or saving her all of a sudden, we’ll have them reunite like this? But Brash, I am clueless as to how will the kiss eventually come about. Can’t decide if I want a passionate one, a gentle teary eyed one, or a climatic one… so many possibilities!
And as for what sandor thinks of sansa’s intelligence: I think Sandor, more than anyone in ACOK know just how bad things are for sansa cause he cared enough to keep an eye out for her. so he may believe that sansa would have been willing to be involved in a plan for her escape, and actually trying to carry it out, but I don’t think he believed there was at least one person in KL who would care enough to take the risk of helping her out. But since he took the “trouble” of seeking her out to “talk” more than once and he tried to change her views on different subjects, I believe he thought of her as a smart girl, not at all like the silly foolish empty headed girl everyone thinks she is (and the girl he once thought she was). But I also agree with what somebody posted previously that he must have been frustrated that she never seemed to trust him. he doesn’t know that sansa by the end of the second book believes that he will let no harm come to her. That’s why he tells her later on this thing. To make her finally realize she has someone who is willing to help her out and cares about her. I’m sure he was glad that she was finally lying to keep up appearances with the whole my-family-are-traitors thing, but maybe he would have like her to let down this charade with him?