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Little Finger's Death.

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#1 lostaphrodite

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:12 AM

Is there anyone else who thinks that Little Finger will have to die in the next book in order for Sansa's character to develop fully? I think Little Finger passing on his trade secrets to Sansa is a give away.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:16 AM

I really hope that Littlefinger will die and that he will die horriably. In fact I would be willing to make a deal with Ramsay that as long as Littlefinger is alive as a "guest" at the Dreadfort he can keep his head.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:25 AM

I really hope that Littlefinger will die and that he will die horriably. In fact I would be willing to make a deal with Ramsay that as long as Littlefinger is alive as a "guest" at the Dreadfort he can keep his head.


I want Littlefinger to live till he grows old and grey. I like him.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:37 AM

I get the feeling the Sansa will outsmart LF and have him thrown out the moon door for treason. For once that girl needs to get out of a mess herself.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:37 AM

my wish :I would cut his fingers off smash his arms and legs ripp out his tongue and make his face a ruin worse than theon and then throw him in a skycell with a chain on the wall
what might happen: sansa will throw the strangler into his will when he's alone

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:40 AM

It would be nice to see Sansa use him to re-take the North before killing him somehow. If not, I hope he finds a way to stay alive until the end.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:02 PM

At this point in the story, I do not see Sansa outsmarting Littlefinger, unless there's serious changes in her character in book 6 that she could do it in book 7. It seems more likely to me at this point that she would be his accomplice, that hes grooming her in his image to lie and manipulate. Something he wishes he could have probably done with Cat.

She seems to be taking to it successfully, shes well taught in courtship courtesies and flattery, which for most part are white lies anyway.

but think of the scale of events that LF set in motion and the results, at this point I cannot see Sansa doing this on the level of LF. For now anyway.

Could she turn the tables on LF, sure, but at this point I dont see it.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:05 PM

Dunno what you mean by "develop fully".

But for me, the issue is this. She has just learned that Littlefinger is planning Sweetrobin's death. She needs to get off her ass, and act to protect Sweetrobin. Otherwise, she is not worth rooting for.

For now, it would be enough if she just takes Sweetrobin and runs.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:06 PM

At this point in the story, I do not see Sansa outsmarting Littlefinger, unless there's serious changes in her character in book 6 that she could do it in book 7. It seems more likely to me at this point that she would be his accomplice, that hes grooming her in his image to lie and manipulate. Something he wishes he could have probably done with Cat.

She seems to be taking to it successfully, shes well taught in courtship courtesies and flattery, which for most part are white lies anyway.

but think of the scale of events that LF set in motion and the results, at this point I cannot see Sansa doing this on the level of LF. For now anyway.

Could she turn the tables on LF, sure, but at this point I dont see it.


Well she doesn't have to do any major scheming to get into power. LF is doing that for her, so she just has to wait until after she's been married to Harry the heir before having him done for treason. She could reveal that he killed Lysa, or concoct a convincing lie, or just get Ser Shadrich to assasinate him or something. Then she wins the north, the vale and possibly the riverlands with little effort.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:08 PM

I want Littlefinger to live till he grows old and grey. I like him.


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Each to their own. I will have to take comfort in that at least you are happy if Littlefinger makes it to the end.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:11 PM

It would be nice to see Sansa use him to re-take the North before killing him somehow.


Disagree. I have no need to see Sansa beat the Devil at his own game, and replace him as Head Devil. She needs to play a different game, with different rules.

#12 Petyr Middlefinger Baelish

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:14 PM

What makes you so sure he even can die? The man has unknown skills, as we've learned since the end of ASOS. I wouldn't be surprised if Littlefinger turned out to be an avatar for the God of Chaos and has been the unseen hand guiding all the wars in Westeros since the Andals landed.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:14 PM

It seems more likely to me at this point that she would be his accomplice, that hes grooming her in his image to lie and manipulate.


Sure. That could happen. She could become his evil flunky, and help him get rid of Sweetrobin, while being a willing pawn in his evil games. But surely, that would not be a GOOD thing.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:15 PM

I don't think he has to die for Sansa to develop at all. If anything, she should learn from him while she can. That's not saying she has become like him but learning how to maneuver her way through Westerosi politics with his grace isn't a bad thing. All the Stark kids have their respective strengths, and this can be Sansa's.

Plus right now he's promising her Winterfell, and he's not going to do anything crazy (like killing off Sweetrobin) while surrounded by men of the Vale in someone else's castle, so I can't see her wanting to kill him. Maybe escape but not kill, that's not our sweet Sansa.....yet. This is the girl who felt bad about her part in Joffrey's death, after all. And with the Mad Mouse in the Vale, the Blackfish running around somewhere, and the Hound possibly nearby, she may not have a choice in leaving the Vale anyways.

Also, I think Littlefinger will make it to the last book. He and Varys need to have a final showdown. At least I really, really hope they do.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:21 PM

I don't think he has to die for Sansa to develop at all. If anything, she should learn from him while she can.


Is everyone on this board a minion of Evil? Why is everyone so anxious for Sansa to take lessons from the Devil?

Plus right now he's promising her Winterfell ...


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Fancy condos in Beverly Hills
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:21 PM

She could reveal that he killed Lysa

I don't know you, but if I was from the Vale and a girl who comes from nowhere waits until it's best for her to tell the truth about my lady's death... I will not love her !

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:35 PM

I don't know you, but if I was from the Vale and a girl who comes from nowhere waits until it's best for her to tell the truth about my lady's death... I will not love her !


If she played it right she could do it without stirring up hate. She could mention blackmail and death threats. And that's not the only way for her to dispose of him besides.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:47 PM

Is everyone on this board a minion of Evil? Why is everyone so anxious for Sansa to take lessons from the Devil?


You conveniently left out the part where I said that didn't mean she should become like him. Littlefinger is politically savvy but often morally corrupt. Sansa can keep her morals and still be politically savvy. If Ned had been, his head wouldn't be decorating a spike in King's Landing right now. And wouldn't murdering him be wrong? Sansa is no murderer. She can learn from him but still keep the moral code Cat and Ned taught her. Trust me, I don't want to see Sansa starting wars and stroking her chin beard deviously any more than you do. But being a good person doesn't mean you need to a political idiot.

And Littlefinger is hardly the devil. He manipulates people, but they're the ones who make the final decisions about their actions. It's not like he's bewitching them. Luckily there's no Imperius Curse in Westeros.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:50 PM

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Each to their own. I will have to take comfort in that at least you are happy if Littlefinger makes it to the end.


Up for a debate? Or at least a short explanation why you do not like him? /fencing.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':fencing:' />

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:55 PM

You conveniently left out the part where I said that didn't mean she should become like him. Littlefinger is politically savvy but often morally corrupt. Sansa can keep her morals and still be politically savvy.


No-one can serve two masters.

If Ned had been, his head wouldn't be decorating a spike in King's Landing right now.


Ned refused to murder children.

And wouldn't murdering him be wrong? Sansa is no murderer.


I never suggested she murder Littlefinger.

But being a good person doesn't mean you need to a political idiot.


By Littlefinger's standards? Yes, it does.



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