Crusader Kings II
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Galactus
, Feb 16 2012 08:12 AM
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#83
Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:33 AM
Gah-
After reading this thread and the review over at RPS I think I am going to buy this game. That's good...and bad. Good because it sounds amazing and wonderful, bad because I need to balance it with work, school, kids, woman, BF3, Forza4, Kingdoms of Amalur and eating and sleeping. I can give up more eating and sleeping, but the other things..not so much.
Gah!
After reading this thread and the review over at RPS I think I am going to buy this game. That's good...and bad. Good because it sounds amazing and wonderful, bad because I need to balance it with work, school, kids, woman, BF3, Forza4, Kingdoms of Amalur and eating and sleeping. I can give up more eating and sleeping, but the other things..not so much.
Gah!
#85
Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:19 AM
So, I've started my first game in earnest, after one night of pissing about and just attempting to learn the complex UI, controls, and basic terminology. I'm playing as Duke Aed I of Connacht in Ireland (the large province on the Western side) with the goal of military conquest from the very beginning. After a year of training troops I pressed my de jure claim on the county to the east, and thanks to a lucky break from my excellent marshal, also my son and heir, I was able to raise a sizable enough army to defeat theirs in the field and have just enough troops left over (by 5) to successfully siege his capital and church. I didn't have quite enough to take his city but at 90% or so he offered full surrender and I took it.
From there it's been cake. The Island starts off so fractured and independent and in such a swamp of claimants that it's just been a matter of finding those claimants, inviting them to the dark side, and stomping face with superior numbers. I've been able to fabricate claims to one of the counties in the North, and already propped myself up with a second duchy so as to press de jure claims. After ~15 years and one botched war (well I didn't botch the war itself, I just screwed up and supported a claimant to a rival duchy and not the county, so after I won the war my man said "Ok, thanks dude" and considered himself my equal. D'oh. Worse off his ungrateful son doesn't even think positively of me. He will die.) I've managed to seize control of 7 counties, 3 under my direct control (one that I passed off to a grandson to stop his whining, which so far hasn't backfired), the rest under vassals that are all at least 30 to the green/loyal. That gives me enough control to claim the throne of Ireland but so far I lack the money and piety. My duke is a lech and a bit of a populist and thus not particularly good at raking in the cross-points. Right now I'm torn between continuing to expand as I have been, though claimants to the remaining 6 counties are sparse, and saving up, consolidating, and taking the remainder of the isle by becoming king and either vassalizing the wimpy duke pretenders or pressing the new crop of de jure claims. Buying indulgences will almost surely be part of that plan.
So far my best assets have been my son, who is an excellent marshal, and a phenomenal steward, who though he's not a Littlefinger-esque financial whiz is loyal, and has strong numbers across the board, so I've assigned him as tutor to each of my grandkids as they turned 6. My Chancellor, spymaster (who was my wife until she died, and whom I replaced with my son's wife because she wanted the job, was loyal, and because I had no good alternates), and religious tutor all leave quite a bit to be desired (in fact my Steward would be better than all three at their own jobs), but I suppose you can't have everything.
Certainly off on the right track so far.
From there it's been cake. The Island starts off so fractured and independent and in such a swamp of claimants that it's just been a matter of finding those claimants, inviting them to the dark side, and stomping face with superior numbers. I've been able to fabricate claims to one of the counties in the North, and already propped myself up with a second duchy so as to press de jure claims. After ~15 years and one botched war (well I didn't botch the war itself, I just screwed up and supported a claimant to a rival duchy and not the county, so after I won the war my man said "Ok, thanks dude" and considered himself my equal. D'oh. Worse off his ungrateful son doesn't even think positively of me. He will die.) I've managed to seize control of 7 counties, 3 under my direct control (one that I passed off to a grandson to stop his whining, which so far hasn't backfired), the rest under vassals that are all at least 30 to the green/loyal. That gives me enough control to claim the throne of Ireland but so far I lack the money and piety. My duke is a lech and a bit of a populist and thus not particularly good at raking in the cross-points. Right now I'm torn between continuing to expand as I have been, though claimants to the remaining 6 counties are sparse, and saving up, consolidating, and taking the remainder of the isle by becoming king and either vassalizing the wimpy duke pretenders or pressing the new crop of de jure claims. Buying indulgences will almost surely be part of that plan.
So far my best assets have been my son, who is an excellent marshal, and a phenomenal steward, who though he's not a Littlefinger-esque financial whiz is loyal, and has strong numbers across the board, so I've assigned him as tutor to each of my grandkids as they turned 6. My Chancellor, spymaster (who was my wife until she died, and whom I replaced with my son's wife because she wanted the job, was loyal, and because I had no good alternates), and religious tutor all leave quite a bit to be desired (in fact my Steward would be better than all three at their own jobs), but I suppose you can't have everything.
Certainly off on the right track so far.
#87
Posted 24 February 2012 - 02:55 PM
Became king of Ireland last night. I also assassinated one of my half-brothers who had me as an heir to this random province in France that he ruled. The king of Scotland is huge though, having taken all of Scotland, the Isle of Man, and parts of northern England. He also, annoyingly, took Ulster, which is the only province on the island that I lack.
We have fought three wars, both initiated by him over a claim on one of my provinces. I have won all three, and although I don't like I can't expand my victory (I've taken Ulster in all three wars and haven't gotten to keep it), I do love winning wars. So many ransoms, PLUS your disloyal vassals often revolt, allowing me to crush them and throw them in jail.
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We have fought three wars, both initiated by him over a claim on one of my provinces. I have won all three, and although I don't like I can't expand my victory (I've taken Ulster in all three wars and haven't gotten to keep it), I do love winning wars. So many ransoms, PLUS your disloyal vassals often revolt, allowing me to crush them and throw them in jail.
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#88
Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:15 PM
Kaldaur, on 24 February 2012 - 09:52 AM, said:
This game sounds like Europa Universalis on crack.
I pray that they take the core of CK2 and use it to build EU4. CK2 is by far and away the best Paradox game so far.
I have been playing as Byzantium in my first game. So far I have learned loads about how to actually get a large enough functioning economy to throw down with the big boys. HRE ate Italy, Poland, Bohemia, Denmark most of France and is working on chewing up the Arabs in Iberia
They sure made the Arabs much tougher compared to CK. I cant wait to see the Mongols. Im hoping they eat up the Seljuks.
#89
Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:41 PM
So the advice given on the board was invaluable. While I had been struggling to do anything 3 gens in, I started to use claimants as attack avenues and started planning my marriages better and now my humble duchy of Connacht has grown. I'm King of Ireland(holding the entire island too), Duke of Galloway, control Orkney, the Isle of Man, and the other isles around England. I'm currently fighting over Iceland with Norway (why not) and when my character and his wife die, my son gets all that plus all of Flanders. I mean to control all of the British Isles soon as I can get my greedy paws on it. Along the way my current King has thrown a fabulous tournament as well as being known by the solid title "the Holy" to the common people. I had one of my brothers attempt to assassinate me but a quick imprisonment changed his tune and he now has 100 loyalty and runs the Duchy of Ulster.
I love this game but I'm beginning to think starting Irish in the early period is just way too easy.
I love this game but I'm beginning to think starting Irish in the early period is just way too easy.
#92
Posted 24 February 2012 - 08:04 PM
My Georgian adventure is going rather nicely so far. I was lucky to start off with my first gen incarnation living until the ripe old age of 86 (unfortunately he was captured by the Azerbaijani infidels and thrown in jail at the end there, I suspect that might have hastened his demise). In the mean time, his annoying son died, so the kingdom passed to my Grandson, who was conveniently aged to potentially also have a long rule. He does, however, have many sons so I might have a succession crisis on my hands next time.
Anyway, I managed to piss off one of my underlings enough that he declared war on me (easy pickings - made for a nice chunky increase to my demesne). The Azerbaijanis came roaring up the side of the Caspian Sea and conquered Alania, which was very convenient because it saved me having to figure out how to fabricate a good enough claim to conquer the place. Fought a couple of wars over Alania (the first lost me my aging king, the second was rather more successful) and eventually carved out a nice little kingdom for myself.
Next door, the Byzantine Empire keeps having revolts. Unfortunately I'm never quick enough to get a claim on some of their territory and grab it for myself...someday soon, perhaps. I'm loathe to try to expand North because I know the Mongols are coming and frankly I want to have as much time to prepare as I possibly can. But fortunately there's more of Azerbaijan to sink my teeth into, so I don't think I have to worry about space for a while. Might run into problems when I get down the the Seljuks though...
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Anyway, I managed to piss off one of my underlings enough that he declared war on me (easy pickings - made for a nice chunky increase to my demesne). The Azerbaijanis came roaring up the side of the Caspian Sea and conquered Alania, which was very convenient because it saved me having to figure out how to fabricate a good enough claim to conquer the place. Fought a couple of wars over Alania (the first lost me my aging king, the second was rather more successful) and eventually carved out a nice little kingdom for myself.
Next door, the Byzantine Empire keeps having revolts. Unfortunately I'm never quick enough to get a claim on some of their territory and grab it for myself...someday soon, perhaps. I'm loathe to try to expand North because I know the Mongols are coming and frankly I want to have as much time to prepare as I possibly can. But fortunately there's more of Azerbaijan to sink my teeth into, so I don't think I have to worry about space for a while. Might run into problems when I get down the the Seljuks though...
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Edited by Sir Thursday, 24 February 2012 - 08:05 PM.
#98
Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:06 PM
BaelorBreakspear, on 25 February 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:
Having never heard of it until this thread, I have to say it sounds incredible. I'm definitely buying this. It looks like Amazon will allow you to buy it as a download? Is that recommended or should I have them ship the disc version?
The best way to buy it is through Paradox's game portal Gamer's Gate, gamersgate.com. it's DRM free that way unlike through Steam.
#100
Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:52 PM
BaelorBreakspear, on 25 February 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:
Having never heard of it until this thread, I have to say it sounds incredible. I'm definitely buying this. It looks like Amazon will allow you to buy it as a download? Is that recommended or should I have them ship the disc version?
Whether you download or get a physical copy from Amazon, I believe it still has to be activated through Steam. Which isn't a problem if you like Steam, but if you don't your best bet is to get a digital download through Gamersgate.com







