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[Nightfyre]

All of his kids are basically wargs. Why not?

[TheColdWinds]

He may have been but just did not know it. Hell the only one who has figured it out completely is Bran.

[Lord of Cheese]

I'd say no. There is no evidence that he believes in anything supernatural exists in his day and age. He was surprised to see direwolves his side of the wall and executed the NW brother as a traitor after dismissing his claims of others etc...

He even had to be coaxed into letting his kids keep the baby wolves. I don't think he was considering wargs and such at that time.

But, the Starks have been known to be wargs in the past so I'm sure he knows of this. Just that it probably hasn't happened in the recent times that he doesn't consider it at all.

[TheHedgeWizard]

Being a warg is a rare thing. 1 in a 1000. it is very unlikely Ned was a warg.

[Plem]

TheHedgeWizard, on 26 February 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

Being a warg is a rare thing. 1 in a 1000. it is very unlikely Ned was a warg.

I don't think that logic applies here. At least three of his children (that's three out of six) are wargs - Jon, Bran and Arya. Maybe Sansa would have been one too if Lady hadn't died so soon. And we don't know about Robb or Rickon since we never get their POV.

[PrinceHenryris]

NO!

He might have had the talent, but never the opportunity.  Even if a Direwolfe had made it South of the wall before AGOT, Ned would have been too far South to connect with it.

IM(N)HO, the only Starks who can truly Warg are Jon, Arya, Bran, and Rickon.

[Ororo727 Jon Snow Fangirl]

Per GRRM all of the Stark children are wargs. However, Ned was not.

Edited by Ororo727, 26 February 2012 - 03:59 AM.

[Winter's Lady]

No, I don't think so.
He may have had the "gene", but I think the Starks had to bond with a direwolf to trigger the abilty. No direwolf for The Ned, no warging.

[vikiblood]

I believe that everything is conected, it can't be a coincidence that six wargs were born in the same family as the same time that the others are rising and that the dragons are coming, so all the magic help to awake the children inter warg, but eddard didn't belong to their generation and aldo he maybe was a warg he  couldn't develope his power  

[Apple Martini]

Plem, on 26 February 2012 - 03:29 AM, said:

I don't think that logic applies here. At least three of his children (that's three out of six) are wargs - Jon, Bran and Arya. Maybe Sansa would have been one too if Lady hadn't died so soon. And we don't know about Robb or Rickon since we never get their POV.

Wargs are rare, 1 in 1,000. That six — yes, six — Starks of the same generation were born wargs is an anomaly of the highest order. Statistically it's almost impossible (like 10 to the -18th power), but it happened. That doesn't mean, in general, wargs aren't rare, because they are. Think of the Stark kids as freak accidents, if it was an accident.

And no, I don't think Ned was a warg.

[DirePenguin]

Ned seemed to be able to foresee the future in his dreams tho. All those dreams about ice field, winter, cold lands and the crypt were all foretelling future death.

[Pomp & Happenstance]

I personally don't believe he was a Warg/Skinchanger. We don't have any evidence to suggest it besides the fact that his children are wargs/greenseers.

Might have been cool, but I think it's better if he wasn't.

[The Imp With A Pimp Limp]

DirePenguin, on 20 April 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

Ned seemed to be able to foresee the future in his dreams tho. All those dreams about ice field, winter, cold lands and the crypt were all foretelling future death.

Shireen also has dreams about dragons eating her, that doesn't mean she's a warg. That was just foreshadowing imo.

I'm pretty sure Ned was not a warg, I thought GRRM said so. At the very least he said that genetics don't work as in the real world, that there's magic involved in it so the fact that his kids are wargs doesn't mean a whole lot

[Howling Mad]

Plem, on 26 February 2012 - 03:29 AM, said:

I don't think that logic applies here. At least three of his children (that's three out of six) are wargs - Jon, Bran and Arya. Maybe Sansa would have been one too if Lady hadn't died so soon. And we don't know about Robb or Rickon since we never get their POV.

GRRM has said in interviews that all the Stark children are wargs.

[Dr. Pepper]

TheColdWinds, on 26 February 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

He may have been but just did not know it. Hell the only one who has figured it out completely is Bran.

Untrue, at least for Jon and Arya.  Janos Slynt called Jon a warg and Jon did not deny it nor did he act as though he had no idea what that even meant. The wildlings also explained a bit to him.  Jon is also very aware of when he's warged Ghost.   Arya knows that she has seen the Kindly Man through a cats eyes and she knew that she had skinchanged into Nymeria when she pulled her mother from the river.  Both of them have at least figured it out.  We can't know about Rickon and Robb because neither of them had POVs.  I think we don't get anything from Sansa yet because since Lady died, she hasn't exactly been around the types of animals we've seen being warged.

[Melpomene]

If he was able to, don't think he would ever try or acknowledged it anyhow.

Despite his demeanor, value on Stark tradition and sense of personal faith, he appeared to be a logical type of character who also valued simplicity and peace.


Overall, likely that he wasn't one. The Stark kids are sort of a special case, kids who are swamped with many difficult obstacles and tests, facing them all on their own without trusted guards, parents, or other family members - and also dealing with the threat against the survival of the family itself, something that has become their responsbility to take back and uphold as the last surviving members of that line.

[chris999]

I happen to think that Ned Stark was a very accomplished warg. All of his children are wargs, one is even a "greenseer".

You have to think that Ned carried the 'warg trait' that is passed down from the Stark line.

I even think that Ned Stark still has a role to play in this story.

No one will believe me til it happens though.

[Big Noyd]

Still won't believe you when it does happen, which it won't.

[Tourne-Toujours]

Now we know who's in Balerion is a black cat! Tommon's probably the safest person in Westeros in that case.

[Morrigan]

Howling4Reed, on 20 April 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

GRRM has said in interviews that all the Stark children are wargs.

Even Sansa? If so, I wonder how her ability will emerge...

I always thought the Stark children had become wargs because of the direwolves., And, seeing as Sansa lost hers, she couldn't be one anymore.