TheFlayedMan, on 03 May 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:
I haven't read through the entire thread, but I'm curious as to why you would discount what seems to be an event that fits in well with the character of Ramsay and has been confirmed by Roose for a seemingly unmotivated murder based on flimsy speculation?
We don't know who killed Domeric. What we know is that Roose advertises deliberately that Ramsay killed Domeric. Roose says: "Ramsay killed him. A sickness of the bowels, Maester Uthor says, but I say poison." So Roose would just have to approve his maester to absolve Ramsay, and he doesn't.
Moreover, the death of Domeric presents all the symptoms of poisoning by the tears of Lys, a substance too exotic to have been in Ramsay's possession. In any case, poison is not Ramsay's style.
There are many more arguments in the thread about the similarity between Craster and Roose/Ramsay, about the real political objectives of Roose.
rmanoj, on 03 May 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:
Just a tangential note on the "First King" idea: If the First Men came to Westeros across the arm of Dorne, I really, really doubt that they would have been able to (or felt the need to) make it as far North as Barrowton within the lifetime of the First King. It would have required a successful Blitzkrieg against the CoTF, which goes against what we've been told about a war that lasted a couple thousand years before the signing of the Pact.
Wrong thread. In fact I raised this objection in the other thread. Greenhand tried to answer it, and I encourage you to read his post.