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[Ryjacork]

Considering how out there some of the theories people around here come up with, I wouldnt make fun of somebody els just for having a new one.

[Feather Crystal]

I wish I could remember where I read this, but it was from an interview with GRRM and he said, in a nutshell, that Syrio died in that sword fight.

[Mman]

Even if he did, there is precedent for a Faceless Man being "killed" but really just changing faces.

Also, I personally don't think he did survive (although it is possible).  However, if he did, the only time I think that he could be reintroduced realistically is that he is who Arya goes on to train with.  That would be pretty damn cheesy, but the only decent way I can see to do it. So hopefully we would find out really quick in the new book (so like in 8 years).

Edited by Mman, 01 March 2012 - 02:41 PM.

[Dracarya]

Melisandra, on 01 March 2012 - 02:17 PM, said:

I wish I could remember where I read this, but it was from an interview with GRRM and he said, in a nutshell, that Syrio died in that sword fight.

Wait, really? All I've seen are hints that he might not be dead. I also found it strange that, seeing as GRRM wrote the episode with that sword fight in, he would have shown Syrio's death to put to bed any theories that he might not be dead.

[Fire_Kiss]

Is there a link to the "Syrio F is really dead" proof?

Syrio was/is one of my favorite charecters... I have no idea if he is a FM or not, but if he is, Meryn Trant is as good a theory as any. Better than Ja'quen imho

[Gingerly Grumkin]

If syrio is alive(which he very well may be)... who is he
Jaqen H'Ghar/The Alchemist/Pate
or The Kindly man?
or both?

[Qhorin Halfhand and Yoren]

100% proved:

The man we knew as Syrio Forel is a man who Bloodraven warged for his own needs and assumed the identity Syrio Forel.

The real Syrio Forel is a faceless man who poisoned Joffrey on his wedding, while hidden as a servant.

Then he became the kindly man.

His twin brother is Daario Naharis. Danny will fall in love with Syrio Forel in a later book and he will give her an heir.

Edited by Qhorin Halfhand and Yoren, 01 March 2012 - 03:24 PM.

[The Greenseer]

kneo, on 01 March 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

And in all this time I thought that Syrio is actually the cat Arya used to chase.

An interesting little thing I just discovered, in AGOT someone (I belive it was Selmy) thinking back about Rheagars daughter and he wondered what became of her little black cat.
  Then I remembered Arya chasing a grizzled old black cat, and one of the guards telling her that the black cat had been at the Red Keep for ages. It gave me a little smile...

Edited by The Greenseer, 01 March 2012 - 03:37 PM.

[Winter's Lady]

The Greenseer, on 01 March 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:

An interesting little thing I just discovered, in AGOT someone (I belive it was Selmy) thinking back about Rheagars daughter and he wondered what became of her little black cat.
  Then I remembered Arya chasing a grizzled old black cat, and one of the guards telling her that the black cat had been at the Red Keep for ages. It gave me a little smile...

Yep, that's definitely Balerion the cat Arya is chasing, which once belonged to Rhaenys. I love those little details! They're like the icing on the cake.

[Serie]

I wonder if someone has warged the cat... (crackpot )

[Euphail]

Qhorin Halfhand and Yoren, on 01 March 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

100% proved:

The man we knew as Syrio Forel is a man who Bloodraven warged for his own needs and assumed the identity Syrio Forel.

The real Syrio Forel is a faceless man who poisoned Joffrey on his wedding, while hidden as a servant.

Then he became the kindly man.

His twin brother is Daario Naharis. Danny will fall in love with Syrio Forel in a later book and he will give her an heir.

[Alistair of House Campbell]

Sometimes characters become so lovable it's hard to except their fate.  Syrio and Elvis are both dead unfortunately.

[Winter's Lady]

Alistair of House Campbell, on 01 March 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Sometimes characters become so lovable it's hard to except their fate.  Syrio and Elvis are both dead unfortunately.

Elvis isn't dead. He's chillin' on some secret tropical island with Tupac, Kurt Cobain and Jimi Hendrix. It is known.
Syrio though...

[ServantOnIce]

Trent was a great Knight almost on the same level as Lannister and Selmy . . .  he also was wearing armor and smashed Syrio's training sword ..  he's dead.

Syrio is deader than Robb and Gray Wind . .  Now if you want a crackpot theory  . . I believe Varys is really not a Eunuch that he really is Prince Rhagaer who faked his death on the Trident.  Varys was an mummer aka an Actor so Varys took Rhagaer's place which explains why he was defeated by Robert so easily on the Trident,  Varys took his son Aegon and hid him with his trusted buddy Jon Connington . Rhagaer learned "mummery" from Varys in secret . .

Varys = Rhagear waiting to reclaim the Iron Throne as "Hand of the King" while his son rules as "King of all Westeros."

Edited by ServantOnIce, 01 March 2012 - 06:26 PM.

[Rhaegar Targaryen's Ghost]

CC-Kingmaker, on 01 March 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

Ya know, ive heard dumber things on this forum

Revan Baratheon, on 01 March 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

Balon greyjoy warged into a kraken when he fell into the sea and he is the kraken that Varys was talking about.

hahaha so true. imagine he is just out there waiting to destroy his brothers and everyone else because he is a nutcase?

[Greywolf2375]

Melisandra, on 01 March 2012 - 02:17 PM, said:

I wish I could remember where I read this, but it was from an interview with GRRM and he said, in a nutshell, that Syrio died in that sword fight.

No, he has never said anything like that about Syrio.  He has commented that he is surprised such a minor character has gotten so much attention, but he has never come out to say yay or nay.

[SerStinger]

GregorBlackFinger, if you continue like that, I will run out of likes.

[Feather Crystal]

Greywolf2375, on 09 July 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

No, he has never said anything like that about Syrio.  He has commented that he is surprised such a minor character has gotten so much attention, but he has never come out to say yay or nay.

From the Citadel:
6.1.3. Is Syrio dead?
Syrio’s fate is completely unknown. However, speculation has run between his having been killed, his having been imprisoned, and his having been merely a disguise of a Faceless Man who was thrown into the black cells, changed into Jaqen H’ghar, and is now at large in Westeros. A Feast for Crows appears to put an end to this latter theory, as Jaqen H’ghar was apparently already in the black cells before Syrio’s confrontation with Meryn Trant.
In 2005, GRRM pointed out that Syrio seems to have been left in a hopeless situation when he was last seen, and suggested readers should "draw your own conclusions" based on this (SSM), which seems to imply that Syrio Forel was in fact killed. More recent reports (but, it should be said, unconfirmed) indicate GRRM does not understand why he gets asked the question repeatedly, pointing out that Syrio is not immortal; if accurate, this seems to more heavily imply that Syrio Forel is dead.

[Knight of Blackhaven]

who is syrio?

[Knight of Blackhaven]

its simple Martin left it open incase he feels like bringing him back at any point he chooses