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[Ser Greguh]

Wait Rush Limbaugh is still alive?

I think that if Republicans get to make a law highlighting links between single parenthood and child abuse, Democrats should get to make a law highlighting links between being a Republican Moral Preacher and soliciting gay sex in public restrooms.

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

I hope Ms. Fluke sues the ever-loving shiat out of him. Seems to me to be a pretty clear cut case of slander. And he's already admitted that he screwed up...

[Shryke]

Funny thing, even with how much of a non-apology it was, he's already getting some flak from the right about "caving to the evil liberal media".

And no, this should not be ignored. Attacking him through his sponsors is exactly how this should have gone.

[Sci-2]

Rush is just one more brick in rape culture. Birth control == porn star who should put up sex videos of herself on the internet?

Jeez Rush, we know you're hard up but come on - she could be your granddaughter.

[RWHamel]

Manhole Eunuchsbane, on 04 March 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

I hope Ms. Fluke sues the ever-loving shiat out of him. Seems to me to be a pretty clear cut case of slander. And he's already admitted that he screwed up...

I do think she has a Libel/Slander case.

[Paladin of Ice]

I'm seeing stories that ProFlowers has pulled heir advertising from Rush, bringing the total to 7 companies to do so.

Here's the story google news is linking to.

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ProFlowers says on its Facebook page that it has suspended advertising on Limbaugh's program because his comments about Georgetown University law student Sandra Fluke "went beyond political discourse to a personal attack and do not reflect our values as a company."

The company had said on Twitter that posts it received about Limbaugh's remarks affected how it dealt with its advertising partners.

Limbaugh called the 30-year-old Fluke a "slut" and "prostitute" after she testified in support of national health care policies that would compel employers and other organizations to offer group health insurance that covers birth control for women.
He apologized to Fluke on Saturday.

Edited by Paladin of Ice, 04 March 2012 - 03:07 PM.

[Triskele]

So apparently Romney wrote an op-ed in 2009 suggesting to President Obama that he implement the individual mandate federally.

First off, I can't believe that this hadnt' become a story until now, and second, I just don't know how you spin this one if you're the Romney team.

[TerraPrime]

Mitt Romney vs Mr. Burns: Which billionaire misanthrope said this? You decide.

http://whyevolutioni...ns-vs-mr-burns/



Also, Obama may actually be doing something that FLoW HAS to support. Will he, and then suffer an aneurysm? Or won't he, and fight to the bitter end to justify why? Stay tuned!

White House Weekly Address, starts around 3:00 mark for the call to end government subsidies to oil companies.

Edited by Typical Woman, 04 March 2012 - 04:00 PM.

[Atreides]

The Sinister Kid, on 04 March 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

So apparently Romney wrote an op-ed in 2009 suggesting to President Obama that he implement the individual mandate federally.

First off, I can't believe that this hadnt' become a story until now, and second, I just don't know how you spin this one if you're the Romney team.

It was probably Obama's October Surprise. And the Republican establishment is pulling for Romney, so they obviously didn't want it getting out. Poor Romney, exposed as being even more of a liar and flip-flopper than previously thought. Is there anyone who is a more defines "typical politician" more than Romney?

[Jon Sprunk]

Atreides, on 04 March 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

It was probably Obama's October Surprise. And the Republican establishment is pulling for Romney, so they obviously didn't want it getting out. Poor Romney, exposed as being even more of a liar and flip-flopper than previously thought. Is there anyone who is a more defines "typical politician" more than Romney?

This is my guess. I'm sure the Obama re-election campaign has a lot of info about Romney and Santorum (old speeches, statements, commericals, etc...) that they are waiting to use once the general comes around.

[Triskele]

I suppose we have to wait for the Supreme Court ruling before we can really weigh what kind of general election issue health care will be.

I do wonder if by chance the entire law were thrown out, how Obama would discuss health care in the general.  I also wonder how the Republican candidate would or would not talk about it.

[TerraPrime]

The Sinister Kid, on 04 March 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

I also wonder how the Republican candidate would or would not talk about it.

I think there's very little chance they won't talk about it, whether the SCOTUS ruling is favorable to them or not. If the court rules in favor of the mandate, then the battle cry would be to elect enough GOP to undo it legislatively to stem the over-reaching of an activist court. If the court rules against it, then the slogan would be that it's a great success and a public referendum on the failure of the Democrats' vision. The talking points practically write themselves in either case.

[awesome possum]

The Sinister Kid, on 04 March 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

So apparently Romney wrote an op-ed in 2009 suggesting to President Obama that he implement the individual mandate federally.

First off, I can't believe that this hadnt' become a story until now, and second, I just don't know how you spin this one if you're the Romney team.

I imagine they're hoping people are paying attention to Rush Limbaugh.

[Triskele]

Typical Woman, on 04 March 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

I think there's very little chance they won't talk about it, whether the SCOTUS ruling is favorable to them or not. If the court rules in favor of the mandate, then the battle cry would be to elect enough GOP to undo it legislatively to stem the over-reaching of an activist court. If the court rules against it, then the slogan would be that it's a great success and a public referendum on the failure of the Democrats' vision. The talking points practically write themselves in either case.

In the latter case I was wondering if they would propose any alternative.  I think they would probably have to because it would be a huge debate question that they could expect to be asked.  So if you're the Republican nominee and the Heritage Foundation-esque plan has just been shot down and you're saying that's good...what do you propose as an alternative?

[Kay Fury]

Ser Greguh, on 04 March 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

Wait Rush Limbaugh is still alive?

I think that if Republicans get to make a law highlighting links between single parenthood and child abuse, Democrats should get to make a law highlighting links between being a Republican Moral Preacher and soliciting gay sex in public restrooms.

As much as I hate the hypocrisy, I think bringing out the pitchforks when a conservative jackass gets caught getting blown by a  handsome 19 year old aide sends the wrong message.  People who hate it because it's gay sex hear you and think "SEE, even the liberals are outraged!"  There is no way to effectively make it clear it is the hypocrisy you're railing against instead of the gay affair, especially when it is a thousand times bigger and more talked about when it's same sex, even among supporters of gay rights.  I hate that people who try to penalize other for their choices are making the same ones, but I don't want to reinforce the idea that sex is more shameful and deviant when it's same sex.

[Triskele]

I guess Bob Kerrey is going to run for his old Senate seat in Nebraska.  This might give the Democrats a prayer at holding this seat.  It was almost a certainty to flip to the Republicans, but now it may not be such a sure thing.

[SkynJay]

RWHamel, on 04 March 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

I do think she has a Libel/Slander case.

I was wondering if there is any chance of a sexual harassment case.  I am as far from knowing the laws as can be, but i would assume that if a person told their co-worker to put out a sex tape it would qualify.  Does distance change that?

[kalbear]

I'm pretty sure it's not sexual harrassment any more than someone commenting on how hot Angelina Jolie is would be. There are proximity and duration arguments for harassment, IIRC. Neither of which apply. If they worked together this would be something that would probably go on Limbaugh's record. But they don't, so it's just a case of slander.

[Tempra]

RWHamel, on 04 March 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

I do think she has a Libel/Slander case.

I don't know.  Limbaugh's comment that she is a slut surely would qualify as an opinion that is not actionable.  His comment that she is a prostitute, however, is a tougher call and could presumably be considered a false statement, not an opinion.  What could save Limbaugh is that he was commenting on a matter of public interest, which is precisely the type of language the first amendment seeks to protect.

I am sure Fluke will receive a large check to make the matter go away.

[Memory Lane]

This should be an . . .  interesting spring. We've got the on-going Euro-drama (now with Spanish inability to meet pre-arranged deficit agreements and the continuing Greek calamity), plus a possible Israeli assault on Iran that might draw the US into a bloody regional war. At least Obama's smart enough to do as little as he can in terms of making a military commitment to Israel against Iran.

Edited by Aspect Bass, 05 March 2012 - 12:54 AM.