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The Winds of Winter: Victarion I ?


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So I saw elsewhere that George read a new Victarion chapter last night in Toronto. All that I saw mentioned of it was that it took place on the eve of the Ironborn's naval assault on Slaver's Bay (Mereen or elsewhere?). Surprised its not on the forums yet. Info anyone??

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Via Fragile Bird, here's the report we have to date:

Well, he wouldn't read a whole chapter, he said, but part of one, Victarion POV. The fleet is about to sail off, he thinks, who knows will be alive at the end of the day (foreshadowing???), he's eager for battle, and then he goes down below to meet with 3 thralls. Each of them is asked to blow the horn once when the time comes, as the fellow who previously blew the dragon horn three times died with burned lungs. They think on it, and point out the other guy died, and Victarion again says who knows how many will die in battle that day against the Yunkish, and tells them they'll be freed and be given land and wives and thralls of their own if they survive. They all agree, then march out. And Victarion thinks about how stupid his brother was giving him the horn and how he would end up with a wife far more beautiful than the one he was forced to kill, and he'll have the Iron Throne.
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Well, the fact that he didn't read the whole chapter is suggestive that there is some kind of twist to it.

And that twist will be Victarion mounting Rhaegal. It is known.

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I like Victarion a lot, but it's sad to see how blatantly naive GRRM has made him. I would hope the maester poisoning him was the only ace Euron had up his sleeve to "take care" of Vic, but given how sneaky the Crow's Eye is I doubt it. I realy want Vic to live and become Dany's Master of Ships on her small council but it really looks like he's being set up to die.

edit: So what exactly is the horn supposed to do???

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As I said in another post, it is so exciting to see a Victorian chapter for The Winds of Winter because it shows how much of the beginning of the book GRRM has written. It seems like the beginning of the novel is really getting written quickly.

Do we know how many written chapters that brings us up to? Ariane 1 and 2, Victorian, Aeron, Theon (and didn't somewhere say Sansa)

Can't wait for more details!

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edit: So what exactly is the horn supposed to do???

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but it is supposed to bind dragons to the owner of the horn.

Moqorro tells Victorian the dragons will come to the owner of the horn so it doesn't matter who blows it (no mortal man may sound the horn and live), but the horn must be claimed with blood to own it. I wonder if they've figured out how to make Victorian the owner of the horn. I thought that the last book made it seem if Victorian has the horn sounded, he hasn't claimed it as its owner through blood, and I figured Euron was the owner and the dragons will be bound to him if it is sounded.

I can't wait to see what happens to those who blow the horn and if it has any effect on the dragons.

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Victarions stupidity never ceases to amaze me... I'm really looking forward to learn what Euron has planned for him.

I'm surprised he didn't go with the Aeron chapter he suggested before . . . this ones doesn't really tell us much that we didn't already know.

Which probably means that Aeron chapter will indeed come in the paperback. I don' really know how to feel about that, but better the Damphair than Vic.

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but it is supposed to bind dragons to the owner of the horn.

Moqorro tells Victorian the dragons will come to the owner of the horn so it doesn't matter who blows it (no mortal man may sound the horn and live), but the horn must be claimed with blood to own it. I wonder if they've figured out how to make Victorian the owner of the horn. I thought that the last book made it seem if Victorian has the horn sounded, he hasn't claimed it as its owner through blood, and I figured Euron was the owner and the dragons will be bound to him if it is sounded.

I can't wait to see what happens to those who blow the horn and if it has any effect on the dragons.

That's what I believe will happen - but ten what? The dragons (at least Viserion and Rhaegal) go flying on their own to Westeros and meet Euron? I sure hope that's something along those lines, since Euron will soon die anyway, and then the dragons will be free (and in Westeros!) to pick a new rider. And burn a few people, and villages, along the way.

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It's actually breathtaking how stupid Victarion Greyjoy is. And, in fact, that's why I really started to like him in ADwD. The Dothraki Sea remark was priceless, also the tidbit about Euron and Aeron making fun of him when they were children.

Anyway, I'm quite sure the Dusky Woman had very specific orders from Euron when he gave her to Victarion. I'm quite convinced that she is the Faceless Man Euron hired to take care of Balon, and her mission is obviously to kill and impersonate Victarion as soon as the time is right (or as soon as he openly tries to act against Euron's interests). It's also not that unlikely that she (and not the maester or Vic's stupidity) was responsible for his bad hand.

But now Moqorro has his very own game going on with Victarion Greyjoy. The Dusky Woman nearly gave herself when she hissed at Moqorro when she first saw him, obviously realizing that a powerful rival had arrived who actually might be able to undo her plans. I don't believe for a moment that Moqorro intends for Victarion to become a dragonrider or bind Dany's dragons to his will. He only arranged for himself to end up with Victarion to be able to secure the horn for his own purposes.

Moqorro mentioned to Tyrion that the black-eyed kraken is the real threat to Daenerys. Meaning that Euron might actually have a chance to steal Dany's dragons (at least Rhaegal and Viserion, since they are right now the only ones at Meereen), and I'm quite sure he is determined to prevent that outcome. Benerro sees Daenerys as savior, he wants her to free the slaves of Volantis, and eventually the world, she is not going to be able to do this if her dragons end up in Euron Greyjoy's hands...

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I don't know if GRRM only reading a part of the chapter means that there's necessarily a twist at the end of this chapter. It could easily be a time constraint for the event that GRRM was at. He's read parts of chapters before, including the Davos 2 from ADWD which doesn't have much of a twist at the end. (And in fact he ended up reading the rest of the chapter at a later date.)

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Here's Fragile Bird's edited post:

Well, he wouldn't read a whole chapter, he said, but part of one, Victarion POV. The fleet is about to sail off, he thinks, who knows will be alive at the end of the day (foreshadowing???), he's eager for battle. They have all kinds of ships, plus smaller fishing boats, so Victarion tells the captain who will lead the battle to keep his men hidden below deck as long as possible to take the enemy by surprise. and Then he goes down below to meet with 3 thralls. Moqorro is there with the dragon horn, which is described as huge and beautifully decorated. Each of the thralls is asked to blow the horn once when the time comes, as the fellow who previously blew the dragon horn three times died with burned lungs. They think on it, and point out the other guy died, and Victarion again says who knows how many will die in battle that day against the Yunkish, and tells them they'll be freed and be given land and wives and thralls of their own if they survive. They will be kept below decks, and not take part in today's battle. They all agree, then march out. And Victarion thinks about how stupid his brother was giving him the horn and how he would end up with a wife far more beautiful than the one he was forced to kill, and he'll have the Iron Throne.

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For a man who beats his wife to death and burns seven naked whores alive,there is,despite that, something compelling about him.

Is the obvious lie that you can blow the horn once and live?The guy at the kingsmoot only blew it once,iirc.

I'm sure Euron is playing Vic,but will spring his trap when he gets back home.

Seems to me Vic and his fleet are needed to get Dany's host and maybe dragons,back to Westeros.

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