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[Rickons Revenge]

I know there's alot of post about the Starks but most are focused on one topic. I want to here from the people who Like the Starks and the people who do NOT like the Starks. I really just want to know more about them and peoples opinion on them.The Good,The Bad,The Ugly.

[Gurkhal]

I don't like the Starks but I'm pretty sure most people already know about that.

[Ice Turtle]

One of the things that feels most wrong is that so many people are just walking around their crypts, it's no Disneyland people, let the place be! I really hope Ned's bones will be put there in the end and Robb will at least have a statue.

About the living, I'm looking forward to the moment when their enemies start to see that those children are alive and  dangerous.

Edited by lazy turtle, 14 March 2012 - 01:08 PM.

[Lord_Debaka]

I love the Stark family, but it could just be that I'm Canadian, and I love to see th tough northern people kick ass.

Ned was one of a very few good guys, Robb was a badass, Arya reminds me of my little sister, Bran is a powerful warg, Rickon is a pissed off little kid with a murderous wolf for a pet, and Jon (Half stark) is essentialy the main story-line of this series of books.

Sansa is a tool, and Catelyn bores the hell out of me though.

[Gurkhal]

lazy turtle, on 14 March 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

One of the things that feels most wrong is that so many people are just walking around their crypts, it's no Disneyland people, let the place be! I really hope Ned's bones will be put there in the end and Robb will at least have a statue.

In the name of tradition I suppose they would have to.

lazy turtle, on 14 March 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

About the living, I'm looking forward to the moment when their enemies start to see that those children are alive and  dangerous.

The funny thing about the time when the Stark children comes of age is that there won't be anyone left for them to take their revenge on. I for one am unsure if a single person on Arya's list except the ones she's already killed will be alive for her to kill. Same goes for Bran, Sansa and Rickon.

While I feel very sad about Tywin, Sandor etc. I do find some comfort in that the Stark children will be cheated of their revenge. I'm probably being petty-minded now but its the small joys that makes our lives brighten.

[Lykos]

@lazy turtle
Well, Ned brought this on, himself.  He put a sculpture of his superhot sister down there.

[Winter's Knight]

I love the Starks really and truly. Ned in some ways reminds me of a dumber version of my father.
That said-I will never understand his insanedesire to spout his plan to expose her to  Cersei Lannister.
Protip: if it doesn't work for Bond villains, it doesn't work for you.

Sansa is my favourite  Stark-she sticks to her own ideals and principles while acknowledging that the rest of the word doesn't.

[Gurkhal]

Winterbreath, on 14 March 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Sansa is my favourite Stark-she sticks to her own ideals and principles while acknowledging that the rest of the word doesn't.

Agrees with this and I would say that this is also why I like Brienne alot.

[Ice Turtle]

Gurkhal, on 14 March 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

In the name of tradition I suppose they would have to.



The funny thing about the time when the Stark children comes of age is that there won't be anyone left for them to take their revenge on. I for one am unsure if a single person on Arya's list except the ones she's already killed will be alive for her to kill. Same goes for Bran, Sansa and Rickon.

While I feel very sad about Tywin, Sandor etc. I do find some comfort in that the Stark children will be cheated of their revenge. I'm probably being petty-minded now but its the small joys that makes our lives brighten.

I don't mind if there is no personal revenge. I would be disappointed if Arya spent rest of the book only killing people on her list. The enemies I'm talking about are more Varys, LF and probably Targs/Blackfires rather then Freys or Lannisters.

[Apple Martini]

I love them, stupid misplaced honor and all. Ned and Tywin (and Robb) ended up equally dead. Is anyone other than Cersei (who's really only on a vendetta rampage against her brother) really trying to avenge Tywin? Does anyone love Tywin like they still love Ned and Robb? No.

I think the Starks are the proverbial tortoise. They take short-term losses and hang in there, and they'll come out on top.

[Winter's Knight]

Gurkhal, on 14 March 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

Agrees with this and I would say that this is also why I like Brienne alot.

The two belong together.

[Faint]

Gurkhal, on 14 March 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

The funny thing about the time when the Stark children comes of age is that there won't be anyone left for them to take their revenge on. I for one am unsure if a single person on Arya's list except the ones she's already killed will be alive for her to kill. Same goes for Bran, Sansa and Rickon.

While I feel very sad about Tywin, Sandor etc. I do find some comfort in that the Stark children will be cheated of their revenge. I'm probably being petty-minded now but its the small joys that makes our lives brighten.

Well, if the Lannisters are non-existent I'd think that be contentment enough. Personally, I would take Tywin's bones, wire them together like a puppet, dress him in a jester's costume, and have him be the fool of Winterfell, all the while sitting atop a chair made of Frey skulls.

As for Arya, though, I do think she has the potential to eliminate some names from her list. If Harys Swyft decides to continue on to Braavos and takes Gregor's men with him as planned, then Dunsen and Raff are not long for this world.

[wyman's cook]

how can someone not like the Starks ? i mean not, cause of fun-trolling like Gurkhal but serioulsy not like em ?
one can not like Catelyn, two can maybe say that  Robb and Ned had been pretty foolish, but that's as far as it goes..

the books are made around em..such a pity, that Rickon is way too young to kick some ass
can't wait to see how will they eventualy make their comeback..even if it's gonna be "bittersweet"

[Knight Of Winter]

Generally, most of Starks are acknowledged as "Good" (morally good, that is). However, in terms of liking and disliking, some of them are among the most divisive characters in the whole series. To examine it further:

Ned - as pillar of honour and justice, he is loved by most of fandom {and some were quite...displeased by his fate (as seen by this popular video: http://url=http://ww...h?v=owf6D2vfZqM)}. He is quite close to traditional "hero" archetype. On the other hand, some readers criticize him for his naivette and clinging to strict moral code - which all led to his downfall and dragged his family into war.

Robb - all I wrote about Ned could be said about Robb, too. While brave and moral character (which brough him many fans), he did commit many mistakes and stupidities (as his non-fans are eager to point out).

Catelyn - don't get me started here...she's subject of most ardent debates, with fans and bashers dissecting her every action, decision and thought and analyising them in essay-long posts.

Sansa - if her mother is most divisive character, Sansa is very close second. Half of readers thinks she's annoying, naive and vain girl who deliberately betrayed her family. The other half defend her just as passionately, citing her kindness, lack of malice and inteligence she's showing under LF's tutelage.

Jon Snow - another fan favourite. Still, often accussed of being typical Mary Sue.

Arya - almost universally liked in first book. In later books, however, with her increasing fondness of murdering - less so.

Bran and Rickon - haven't seen much topics and debates about their personalities.


As for myself, I like all Starks. Besides being well written characters, I like them as characters - their flaws notwithstanding. Really, in cynical and cruel world of ASOIAF, it's nice to read about family whose members genuinelly love each other (I know, with Cat-Jon as exception) and generally try to do the right thing.

[Rickons Revenge]

Gurkhal I would like to know why you do not like the Starks?

[Faint]

wyman, on 14 March 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

how can someone not like the Starks ? i mean not, cause of fun-trolling like Gurkhal but serioulsy not like em ?
one can not like Catelyn, two can maybe say that  Robb and Ned had been pretty foolish, but that's as far as it goes..

the books are made around em..such a pity, that Rickon is way too young to kick some ass
can't wait to see how will they eventualy make their comeback..even if it's gonna be "bittersweet"

I'm not particularly fond of them, unless you want to be inclusive of Jon.

I do enjoy Arya and like her character quite a bit, although I find her chapters to be the epitome of hit-and-miss.

I consider Sansa rather bland but love the parts of the story she documents so I very much look forward to reading her chapters.

Bran is actually my least favorite character in the series and the one POV I don't like in any fashion, except when he's seeing visions unrelated to him.

Rickon is basically a non-entity.

And Eddard was quite swell but didn't make it past the first book.

As for Catelyn, she is one of my favorite characters and one of my favorite POVs when she still had one but I consider her pure Tully.

That being said, I find the Starks, that is, the characters themselves, less entertaining than the Greyjoys, Martells, Lannisters and maybe even the Tyrells.

Edited by Faint, 14 March 2012 - 01:56 PM.

[TheFlayedMan]

I love them. Unfortunately, the children have prematurely learned the stark reality of death.

Wait, this isn't the thread about stupid jokes. Apologies.

Edited by TheFlayedMan, 14 March 2012 - 02:13 PM.

[LordBloodraven]

I fucking love the Starks, the North and Bloodraven. I love Ned for his honour even if that made him headless at the end. Many people tend to call him dumb, and ridicule his demeanor but whatever. When you see people in the middle of a blizzard, fighting for "the Ned's girl", it's worth reconsidering his legacy.
I love them as they are, with their flaws and their strengths and hope that they'll make it in the end.

[Grail King]

Lord_Debaka, on 14 March 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

I love the Stark family, but it could just be that I'm Canadian, and I love to see th tough northern people kick ass.

Ned was one of a very few good guys, Robb was a badass, Arya reminds me of my little sister, Bran is a powerful warg, Rickon is a pissed off little kid with a murderous wolf for a pet, and Jon (Half stark) is essentialy the main story-line of this series of books.

Sansa is a tool, and Catelyn bores the hell out of me though.

Being  from New England, I like ALL the Starks Jon is a Stark in my eyes, how can you not like a family that survived 8000 years?
By their own admission some of their ancestors weren't the best of people, but many more seem to have gain the respect and love of about 98% of the North including Wildlings.
I've yet to see that same devotion to Houses Lannister,Tyrell, Martell, Baratheon, Freys, Bolton etc.

Everyone in this book is a TOOL, some tools learn others do not, Sansa is learning, Cersei is not, Sansa and the Starks may have a future, Cersei's and the Lannisters has passed.

JMHO.

[Rickons Revenge]

Why does family seem darker and more strange than the other houses with their connection to the wall,there wolves,the ability to warg. It all seems kinda odd

By the way I love the actors they picked as the Stark family on the HBO series from Ned to Rickon.