In my imagination, the following conversation takes place in a thread about whether Stannis could have beaten Renly at Storm's End:
A: I don't think its a coincidence that the more Aryan characters in ASOIAF are given a lot more leeway than Jewish characters. I mean, consider how often blue/purple eyes and white-blonde hair is described as the ultimate in beauty, whereas more Semitic features belong to the likes of Cleganes or Boltons.
B: Uh? But the Boltons have fair skin and blue eyes.
A: True, but have you considered how much they seek to remove skin? Isn't that pretty indicative of how they feel...or are supposed to feel...about skin?
B: What? I don't...I mean, even if that's true, it wouldn't mean...you are flipping around what you said.
A: Am I? Or am I just speaking inconvenient truths.
B: I don't...well, I mean, why is it all about antisemitism? There aren't even Jews in ASOIAF.
A: Exactly! Hitler's dream come true!
B: No, I mean...it's not even raised as an issue.
A: It's not allowed to be, you mean, because the Aryans are in charge.
B: No, I mean its not even in the text.
A: And who wrote that text?
B: Wait...so you're saying GRRM...
A: Oh, no, I'm not necessarily saying anything. I'm just pointing out things you may not have realized.
B: Why would you...I mean, I could even be Jewish for all you know.
A: I'm not saying you aren't. Self-hating Jews are well documented.
B: Yeah, but why...I mean, your starting position is off. I mean, once you start off with that conclusion, and fit everything into that frame, calling those bits which fit part of the evidence, and those which don't part of the conspiracy, you really are just exercising confirmation bias.
A: So you're saying antisemitism is a myth? Six million people just went for a walk?
B: No, of course not. I just don't think its central to each and every topic in ASOIAF. I mean, of course its a real issue, and of course some readers bring that to bear on some issues in here. I just don't think its anywhere near as central as you do. I don't think Stannis being more or less Semitic than Renly explains why more Stormlords supported him, or why more posters hate him. I don't even agree that more posters do hate him.
A: Oh no? Every week I see posts commenting on how 'handsome' Renly was, and all kinds of vitriol directed towards Stannis' receding hairline.
B: What? I mean, even if...handsome doesn't mean...vitriol?
Edited by James Arryn, 23 April 2012 - 09:08 PM.