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The Lands of Ice and Fire: a new map book out in Oct 2012


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#141 Cheese Pudding

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:18 PM

Well, the only Dothraki thing I've noticed is that Vaes Graddakh place. But I'm more interest in these kingdoms. South of Vaes Graddakh there seem to be a huge "Kingdom(s) of S...". I wonder what it is.


Probably, as Ran said last page at page 6

the Lands of the Shrykes


So, Kingdom of the Shrykes. But wth are the Shrykes? What does that mean?

Edit: see the strike.

Edit2: There's a thin line drawn from Vaes Graddakh, I guess it connects the city to Vaes Dothrak.

Edited by Cheese Pudding, 23 October 2012 - 04:21 PM.


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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:29 PM

More maps, including one of The Shadow Lands:

http://io9.com/59542...steros-to-qarth

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:32 PM

More maps, including one of The Shadow Lands:

http://io9.com/59542...steros-to-qarth

Thanks for the links. Awesome

ETA:There's even Asshai

Edited by LordBloodraven, 23 October 2012 - 04:33 PM.


#144 Nezzer

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:34 PM

More maps, including one of The Shadow Lands:

http://io9.com/59542...steros-to-qarth

Asshai!!! /drool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':drool:' /> But where exactly is it? I don't recognize the surroundings.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:43 PM

Asshai!!! /drool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':drool:' /> But where exactly is it? I don't recognize the surroundings.


I can only assume the island to the left is in the Jade Sea, and Essos wraps all the way around and ends at Asshai. Then the part to the southeast is Sothoros (you can just see a 'TH').

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:49 PM

I can only assume the island to the left is in the Jade Sea, and Essos wraps all the way around and ends at Asshai. Then the part to the southeast is Sothoros (you can just see a 'TH').

Yeah. At first I though it was right next to Qarth, but that Leng island is pretty large and it's not in that huge HBO map that seems to be official now. Now Yi Ti is the only mysteryous place remaining.

Anyone knows if these maps will be allowed in the wiki?

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:01 PM

Now Yi Ti is the only mysteryous place remaining.


There is a 'Leng Yi' on the north of Leng island......maybe Yi Ti is on the opposite Essosian coast?

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:02 PM

The part to the south is not Sothyros. ;)

The HBO map is utterly wrong when it gets not much past Qarth. George changed it a lot.

The maps will not be usable in the wiki. They're copyrighted, and we're not going to be getting permission to use them. Posting the whole maps would not be a fair use.

I suppose it's possible that we could do little snippets as fair use, to illustrate some of the new areas, ala the io9 except for Asshai.

Edited by Ran, 23 October 2012 - 05:04 PM.


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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:06 PM

"There is an alternate version that tracks the movements of the series' protagonists throughout their vast world"

I've read this in various webpages. How would that exactly work?

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:08 PM

See the io9 excerpt. Color coded arrows going from location to location of a bunch of the POV characters.

Edited by Ran, 23 October 2012 - 05:08 PM.


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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:09 PM

Asshai /drool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':drool:' />

Great, I need 'The Lands of Ice and Fire' NOW.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:24 PM

Ah, no, it's not Qohor. The name its founders gave it are in parenthesis under the Dothraki name.

I guess you could say Ifeqevron means 'foreigners', in a very simplistic sense. But it has a more specific translation.


Sooooooo....anyone know what Ran is talking about?

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:24 PM

I think Asshai is next to Yi Ti and on the far east of Qarth. The continent below must be Sothoryos (unless George invented another one)

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:25 PM

The part to the south is not Sothyros. /wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />


So either Essos is really weirdly shaped, or it's a fourth continent? Or an island possibly? Looks even darker than the shadow lands...

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:27 PM

Also it'd be nice if we could declare whichever spelling of Sothoros/Sothoryos these maps use as the actual spelling.

#156 Ran

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:31 PM

It's Sothoryos. George uses it in all his mails on the maps ,and it's what's printed on the final map.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:32 PM

Ahhhhh. Thanks.

There's one example of Sothoros in aFfC and three in aDwD, I thought maybe it was intentional to demonstrate how little is known of it that no one even agreed on a spelling.

Edited by DaveSumm, 23 October 2012 - 05:38 PM.


#158 Ran

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:41 PM

I expect error. George wavered on the spelling at times, or in the process of editing it got a bit confused. It happens. But he seems to have settled on Sothoryos now. I suppose one can take Sothoros to be a sort of colloquial contraction.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 06:06 PM

What's the city connected to Asshai,S.. GAI,it seems? Is that a road that connects them?

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 06:12 PM

What's the city connected to Asshai,S.. GAI,it seems? Is that a road that connects them?

Stygai. I think it's a ruin, not a city. And that "road" looks more like a river to me.