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[Irish815]

I'm not sure how it works with people having to announce when roles are filled or what-not, is it for sure whether Ramsay or Reek / The reeds are not in the TV show 2nd season?

I saw in an older topic someone posting this: http://www.westeros....g_Soon_Wrapped/  The person said that the hound person may be Ramsay.

I doubt it, as in Season 2 his role would be playing as a smelly guy until the very end.

In fact, im 99% sure the role that article is referring to is Chett from A Storm of Swords prologue. They may have that as the Season 2 cliffhanger ending where the horns go off
saying the Others are back and he pisses himself before he tried to kill Sam.

[spork]

I think it's more probably just a random guy on the hunt for Bran & Rickon.  Reek doesn't actually handle the dogs, Theon conscripts Winterfell's kennelmaster (Farlen?).

[darrylzero]

Irish815, on 02 April 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

I'm not sure how it works with people having to announce when roles are filled or what-not, is it for sure whether Ramsay or Reek / The reeds are not in the TV show 2nd season?

I saw in an older topic someone posting this: http://www.westeros....g_Soon_Wrapped/  The person said that the hound person may be Ramsay.

I doubt it, as in Season 2 his role would be playing as a smelly guy until the very end.

In fact, im 99% sure the role that article is referring to is Chett from A Storm of Swords prologue. They may have that as the Season 2 cliffhanger ending where the horns go off saying the Others are back and he pisses himself before he tried to kill Sam.

We know that they haven't actually cast Reek yet, but I think the indications are that he will be cast for S3, which I feel like could work fine.  I don't really see how you tell the later parts of the story without him.  Hard to tell about the Reeds; I'm less optimistic there.

spork, on 11 April 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

I think it's more probably just a random guy on the hunt for Bran & Rickon.  Reek doesn't actually handle the dogs, Theon conscripts Winterfell's kennelmaster (Farlen?).

Could well be, although from that report it sounds to me like it could be almost anybody.  They could be hunting for Jaime after an escape or release.

Personally, I'm hoping that the entire Winterfell plotline is progressing more slowly than in the books.  I'd prefer, I think, for Bran and Rickon not to disappear until Reek is introduced, which I now believe will be in season 3.  Not sure I have enough information to have a really educated opinion though.

Edited by darrylzero, 12 April 2012 - 09:35 AM.

[spork]

darrylzero, on 12 April 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

Personally, I'm hoping that the entire Winterfell plotline is progressing more slowly than in the books.  I'd prefer, I think, for Bran and Rickon not to disappear until Reek is introduced, which I now believe will be in season 3.  Not sure I have enough information to have a really educated opinion though.

Here's my post on another topic laying out what I think will be the storyline for WF in S2.

[Aegnor]

Spork,

I hadn't seen those descriptions of some of the later episodes before.  Particularly "The Prince of Winterfell" title. I think that ends speculation that the Winterfell storyline is being pushed out to season 3. I'm disappointed with that, as it means that Ramsay will not be involved with the "killing" of Bran and Rickon, or the sack of Winterfell.

I understand why they may have been force to do that. Essentially they'd bring in a character halfway through season 2, and then he disappears afterwards until season 4 or 5. They can't expect an actor to sit on his hands for 2-3 years. I honestly don't know how they are going to handle that with Theon.

[spork]

Seriously, are they just going to show him being tortured every other episode so we don't forget?  David & Dan, that's a tricky one.  How are you going to handle it?

Although, they could show his escape attempt...

[atia-]

Ramsay is going to be in the show...just not this season, because it's not known how sick and depraved he is yet, and there's no time for him.  But if the show gets to season 6 or whatever it woud be really dumb for him not to be.  He's one of the scariest villains in the book.  He'd make such an awesome HBO tv villain; leaving him out would just be a travesty.

Edited by dannister, 13 April 2012 - 05:12 AM.

[MysteriousStranger08]

D and D said recently in an interview that characters who don't do much in certain books would be pushed back in the series. So maybe it's possible that the Sack will be pushed back to start of series 3, and maybe the Reeds will show up around the same time. While they could have Osha do the Reeds role, what will they do with Rickon. It would be good I think if they put Ramsay and the Reeds, their important characters that shouldn't really be cut out.

And any way, their characters are good, espicially Ramsay.

[Serbrienne]

I've heard that Maester Luwin will be taking Rickon. Gonna miss the Reeds...

[atia-]

No Reeds is also a travesty.  I see how they can do it, but it still is unfair.  The Reeds are so important in leading Bran to the one-eyed crow. Could he really do all of that without Jojen's greendreams and wisdom?...and only with Hodor, Osha, and Summer?  Blah.  I guess Osha is so wise in the show that it doesn't matter.  

Not to mention, I love how regardless of how odd the crannogmen may seem, Ned Stark and Starks before him had a great relationship with Howland Reed and has been a great ally.  When the Reeds show up to Winterfell, Bran treats them with utmost respect and is also very curious.  There's a little of his father in him that comes shining out when he treats them seriously, while other people don't really know what to make of them.  He takes all of their advice to heart and listens to everything they have to say.  Not to mention, Howland Reed may become very important in later books.

It would have also been amazing to see Jojen in action, with all of the green and the "little grandfather" look and personality.  What a shame!  RIP HBO Reeds.

[Frumpus]

The Reeds are some of the most expendable characters in the series.

All of those greendreams? Who's to say Bran can't have them himself?

I'd be shocked if they really did choose to keep Luwin alive. I think it's more plausible that they kill Rickon off early, because I really doubt GRRM has something special planned with that whole Davos searching for Rickon and Osha storyline in the 6th book.

I'm not shocked to see the Reeds or Ramsay cut. They'll probably just have Roose Bolton do everything in his bastard son's place (after they take Winterfell from Theon that is).

[thetitansbastard]

Complete travesty to omit Ramsay or the Reeds.  And Ramsay needs to be cast in time for the sack of Winterfell or that would be even stupider

[spork]

I'm very curious as to what Theon's great scene is in E10 - he mentions it in this interview @ 4:48.  Maybe to do with Reek?

[Gingerly Grumkin]

Nobody cares about big/little Walder. lol
I hope they at least have the story of Lady Hornwood, if I don't get to see Ramsay I at least want to hear about him

[King Doug]

Frumpus, on 16 April 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

The Reeds are some of the most expendable characters in the series.

All of those greendreams? Who's to say Bran can't have them himself?

I'd be shocked if they really did choose to keep Luwin alive. I think it's more plausible that they kill Rickon off early, because I really doubt GRRM has something special planned with that whole Davos searching for Rickon and Osha storyline in the 6th book.

I'm not shocked to see the Reeds or Ramsay cut. They'll probably just have Roose Bolton do everything in his bastard son's place (after they take Winterfell from Theon that is).

You're crazy if you think that won't be a big part of the 6th book, unless GRRM decides 8 books are needed and the Davos/Rickon story is pushed to book 7

[EgoistMusketeer]

They could just use an uncredited actor to do Reek this season.  If they cast a Ramsay and bill him as Ramsay then it spoils the tv audience that won't buy that he is Reek the entire time.
I think that the season will end with Theon displaying the boy's dead bodies so as to leave the audience thinking that perhaps he really did kill Bran and Rickon.

[Direwolf Lager]

Frumpus, on 16 April 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

The Reeds are some of the most expendable characters in the series.

All of those greendreams? Who's to say Bran can't have them himself?

I'd be shocked if they really did choose to keep Luwin alive. I think it's more plausible that they kill Rickon off early, because I really doubt GRRM has something special planned with that whole Davos searching for Rickon and Osha storyline in the 6th book.

I'm not shocked to see the Reeds or Ramsay cut. They'll probably just have Roose Bolton do everything in his bastard son's place (after they take Winterfell from Theon that is).

How is it more plausible by having the tv show dictate future events in the novel? Keeping Luwin and having him take Rickon to Skagos (instead of Osha) is a lot more reasonable than just killing off Rickon during the sack of Winterfell

[jlk7e]

Luwin doesn't seem like he would take Rickon to Skagos.  Wouldn't he take him to Last Hearth or White Harbor?  Those are the places he suggests to Bran and the Reeds before he dies.  Luwin taking Rickon directly to White Harbor would simplify things a lot - does anyone really expect anything relevant to the plot to happen in Skagos?

[EgoistMusketeer]

jlk7e, on 02 May 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

Luwin doesn't seem like he would take Rickon to Skagos.  Wouldn't he take him to Last Hearth or White Harbor?  Those are the places he suggests to Bran and the Reeds before he dies.  Luwin taking Rickon directly to White Harbor would simplify things a lot - does anyone really expect anything relevant to the plot to happen in Skagos?

Only if Rickon/ Osha/ Davos die in the process otherwise I agree with you.

[jlk7e]

As for an uncredited actor for Reek, I don't see how that works.  They haven't laid any of the groundwork of the Hornwood inheritance, the existence of Ramsay, and the capture of "Reek" and death of "Ramsay".  I think we'll just see the Boltons arrive at the end and kill Rodrik and capture Theon, with Ramsay played by a lineless extra.