Ran, on 15 April 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:
The Iron Fleet is over a hundred ships. The whole ironborn fleet numbers in the hundreds. I'm not sure I recall George giving a specific number to the Lannister fleet, but I do recall that he said that only the Redwyne fleet and royal fleet matched the ironborn fleet in strength -- so they're all over 100 ships, while the Lannisters aren't... but they could probably maintain 50 ships, I suppose, if they wanted. And double that number in a year if they threw enough gold at the problem.
I meant the "Iron Fleet", their main force, the larger ships they can take to sea and capable of sea battle not every Longships they have on the Iron islands, but you are right sixty is only how many they took to meereen.
IIRC GRRM said the lannister had something like 20-30 ships, but just like the rest, they can supplement their force in time of need by calling their bannermen. This how I remember it and put it on the Ships
entry(reference to ssm bellow), anything I missed/incorrect about?
Free Northman, on 15 April 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:
Davos sees 23 warships. That's a fact.
Manderly tells him he has as many more hidden up the White Knife. I don't think Manderly is lying.
Wyman Manderly rules about 10 times as much land as all Iron Islands put together, and probably rules a population 5 times the size of the combined Iron Isles population.
His city is also bigger than the biggest of the Iron Island ports by an order of magnitude. He has access to the biggest source of lumber in Westeros, and has vaults full of silver. He also has a thriving port with established shipyards and an economy based around fishing and sea trade.
I think 50 ships are easily achievable for him.
He seen 23 warships
, some of those might be just longboats and some of those might belong to Manderly bannermens(which would mean he intend to move). Because if the lannisters can maintain only 20-30 ships, there is no way that Manderly who barely can feed up his own people in the streets, can spawn and maintain 50 ships and crews(a bare minimum of 2000 sailors) and do so quietly.
Edited by mor2, 17 April 2012 - 06:53 PM.