* Brash, that is really good to here
! Appreciate the time you & Raspie have put into this thread, and the future effort with the Afterthoughts as well…
* Maroucia- LOL, yes indeed, Sansa has a thing apparently for cruel mouths! How silly of me to forget it
* Voodooqueen, agree with the Humbert & LF in this chapter being alike- when he sits her on his lap!
Thank the gods Sansa is nothing like Lolita.
* Raksha, great posts on SR & LF!
* Elba, your post on Sansa and how she’s interacted with commoners was very good. We can see as I think you mentioned the difference from the 1st
chapter ever to the last Alayne chapter. Sansa on the day Lady was killed was quite shocked that Arya would want to spend her day talking to hedge knights and being friends with a butcher’s son, among other commoners. But ironically Sansa ended up flirting with hedge knights in her last chapter, and has also developed feelings for a man who has called himself a butcher one the night when they were on the roof top. & she does not need to get down in the mud and get dirty like arya did to understand simple folk. she would rule like eddard i think, and like bran did it for some months. i can't remember if it is something they tell Robb when he has to kill the karstark, but someone somewhere in the books says something like "you must know the men following you and have mutual respect between you and them, but don't get too close to them cause one day you might need to kill them." Arya would have a harder time maybe with this since she became friends with these people (the butcher's boy) but Sansa would probably have a better take on the whole situation. And it is also an ironic twist that Sansa, through her experiences, has managed to change her initial views on life, whereas Arya has a hardertime doing it. Arya sticks to her views and won’t let them go. I mean, it took her months to relent and grudgningly “admire” Sandor. She kept reminding herself that he killed Mycah and that he was as bad as The Tickler and Polliver even at the inn of the crossroads. But Sansa can change her views of the world and admit that there might be others which are better, and if she ends up becoming queen or the Lady of a great house, this is a good quality. She does not have to take it to the extreme of being manipulated by everyone around her and unable to trust her views any longer. It is rather like what happened with Jon and his take on the wildings. He came to know them and agreed that they weren’t all bad. If he hadn’t then he probably would’ve been killed back on the days when he was with Ygritte and Mance, I think.
* Fire Eater, I want Sansa & Cersei to meet again! I would love it if, when that time comes, Sansa is in the full blossom of her power and Cersei is almost lost, and then Sansa tries to show her some kindness… sort of like Jane Eyre when she told her mean aunt as she was dying that she forgave her. Just much more epic... (Whenever I hear the 7 Devils song I picture Sansa having her revenge on Cersei
). But I do not see Cersei going down the path of redemption. Jaime’s already done that, so to have Cersei doing it as well, I just don’t think it’s that
possible. She might’ve if things with Jaime hadn’t gone sour, but now she wouldn’t even have his love to help her along. In the prophecy Maggy the Frog gave her, I understood it as if all her children would be dying before her, so she wouldn’t even have her nice children either to make her appreciate that living a simple life isn’t as bad as she thinks it is- she seems to dislike the idea of being Lady Lannister and living at Casterly Rock confined, and that’s not living simple at all!
Edited by Caro99, 03 May 2012 - 08:45 PM.