[Book Spoilers] What do your non-book reader friends think?
Posted 10 April 2012 - 01:32 PM
I suppose looking at it from their perspective, D&D's little alterations do make sense in helping 'The Unsullied' to understand things, but some things still bring out the purist in me I guess it can't really be helped haha
Posted 10 April 2012 - 01:43 PM
Posted 10 April 2012 - 01:52 PM
Edited by Caro99, 10 April 2012 - 01:53 PM.
Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:13 PM
Anyway, I was surprised a lot of people told me they find most of the episodes boring. Those who watched season 1 are completely "Team Stark" and think of everyone else as black and white villains. They are always amazed when I say Jaime is one of my favourite characters, and I can't really give them my reasons...
Robb Stark is, without exception, their favourite character, closely followed by Dany. They all loathe Sansa and see Tyrion as some sort of minor character put there for comic relief. They only remember the "main" characters' names and everyone else is given nicknames. Joffrey is universally known as Draco Malfoy v2.0.
The most difficult part for me is that I have to listen to their theories on who's gonna die and etc. and cannot correct them!
Posted 10 April 2012 - 04:59 PM
Was totally psyched by the theon and tyrion scenes
But didn't understand everything about Stannis (thought they were sitting in a tent when Stannis&CO. were at Dragonstone)
He is also afraid of not getting all the small things (like the thging about davos fingers) and wants to buy the books now
So well decide yourself if that's a good or a bad thing for the show;)
Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:50 PM
These are also good:
New characters of season 2: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=AWF929rlw10
You win or you die: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Dku_Uya8Ygc (like a more detailed recap with interviews)
Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:22 PM
For the most part, they're following along - keeping names straight - but they're seriously sick of the sexposition.
Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:47 PM
I am a long time reader of science fiction and some fantasy, fantasy like Tolkien or Twilight Zone style fantasy.
Our in laws are very avid readers of history, fiction, non-fiction, not fantasy readers at all.
They don't get HBO but got the DVDs of GOT and loved it!
We have HBO on demand so was able to show them 201, they think it's some of the best TV they have ever seen, the believe the actors are of the highest caliber.
Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:00 PM
Last episode, he (correctly) predicted that Tywin's going to die and all hell is going to break lose because of it. Obviously, I didn't confirm either way, but I bet he'll be shocked when he eventually finds out who kills him.
I also got my brother to start watching and he's been into it as well. When I asked him what he thought about Ned's death, since I remember a lot of fans who hadn't read the books were shocked that what was perceived as the main character could be killed off, my brother shrugged and said, "Well, he wasn't the main character!" Love it. He did go ahead and start on the book series. I'm excited about that.
Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:57 PM
Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:33 PM
His family, none of whome have read the books, love the show and are probably enjoying it more than myself without the internal 'why the hell did they make that change?' monologue. (I do really enjoy the show but I know for a certain I'd like it more if I could just stop comparing it to the books).
Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:34 PM
Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:10 PM
"For Westeros, Robert?"
"No. For me."
Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:59 PM
Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:03 AM
Other than those things and Peter Dinklage being rather stiff. I love the show:) lol
Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:25 AM
Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:49 AM
Thats what I did with season 1, i watched the first 3 episodes in one day and was totally flimsy on what was actually going on, but I knew that I loved it, so I finished the season, rewatched it , then started the books. Casual viewers went through the same things; when they watched the first season, they were somewhat confused; who are these people? what is the society like? who am i interested in? Then they got used to it and started to enjoy their favorite characters. Now when you watch a second season of a show, you expect your need to pay attention to decline because well youve already gotten used to the idea and feel of the show(take walking dead for instance, all you need to know for the second season is there is zombie apocolypse and ricks wife cheated on him with his best friend when she thought he was dead), and tjhis isnt the same for GOT. Season two is like watching a new series. The feel has changed from the first season, there is a plethora of new characters, and this confuses and scares people because they are not accustomed to it. My belief is that as the season rolls on and they start to get used to theon, stannis, and davos as being main characters they will start to enjoy it much more jsut like season one.
The same is with the books really. I;ve read other series like wheel of time, whewre after you get the feel for the characters from the first book, its just a breeze read through the next ones. With each ASOIAF book, you have to approach it like a new series, and focus and remember who people are, and this may put off some readers, but for me I love it. It is what seperates it from so many other series. You can read them again and catch all the subtle things(frey pies, the clues that bran actually isnt dead, the stinky steward ect), unless you visit sites liek these where people catch them and post them for you.
It is this reasoning that this is the best show ever. It may not be perfect in its adaptation but it does a pretty good job with the scope. I think that people will watch the season, skim the surface, see some crazy sh*t and then be like wow that was awesome, I didnt fully get it, but was awesome, im going to watch it again.
Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:29 AM
Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:42 AM
She's somewhat familiar with the story, hearing me relate the back-story of what was cut to allow the progress of the video to fit an hour episode. I'm pleased with how they've made the transition. Nothing in our real lives ever follows the script perfectly. We all cope by adapting to the situation.
Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:33 PM
Non-reader friend # 2: Watched the first 4 episodes last year, found it confusing but was mildly positive. Then got busy and couldn't keep coming over to watch it with us. Last month, she borrowed by DVD's and watched season 1. She really enjoyed it! She was particularly enthusiastic about the credits, which she said were really valuable in orienting her in each episode. She's a big fan of British pop culture and is a walking encyclopedia of British actors; so part of her enjoyment is in seeing all these wonderful British actors.
She made her boyfriend watch the first 2 episodes of season 1 with her. He's not a big fantasy fan and said it reminded him of one big Led Zeppelin video; but did acknowledge that it seemed well done.
Non-reader friend # 3: Says it's a "great show." We haven't really discussed plot details so far this season. He found it useful to watch this season's episode 1 twice.
This friend has always advocated for watching the movie (or tv show) before reading the book it's based on. His theory is that you can enjoy the movie/ tv show, without being distracted by departures from the book; and then read the book, which will be better, and enjoy it as well.