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Direwolves? Weirwood? Is this guy a Grateful Dead fan?


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I just started reading Game of Thrones and I noticed his use of these two terms which also have connections to the Grateful Dead. There is a GD song called Dire Wolf, and the name of the rhythm guitarist is Bob Weir. I am probably just looking too much into this. Maybe there is a connection and maybe there isn't. Does anyone have any idea of GRRM is a fan of the GD??

Here are the lyrics to Dire Wolf:

In the timbers to fennario, the wolves are running round,

The winter was so hard and cold, froze ten feet neath the ground.

Dont murder me, I beg of you, dont murder me. please, dont murder me.

I sat down to my supper, twas a bottle of red whisky,

I said my prayers and went to bed, thats the last they saw of me.

Dont murder me, I beg of you, dont murder me. please, dont murder me.

When I awoke, the dire wolf, six hundred pounds of sin,

Was grinning at my window, all I said was come on in.

Dont murder me, I beg of you, dont murder me. please, dont murder me.

The wolf came in, I got my cards, we sat down for a game.

I cut my deck to the queen of spades, but the cards were all the same.

Dont murder me, I beg of you, dont murder me. please, dont murder me.

In the backwash of fennario, the black and bloody mire,

The dire wolf collects his dues, while the boys sing round the fire.

Dont murder me, I beg of you, dont murder me. please, dont murder me.

No, no, no dont murder me. I beg of you,

Dont murder me. please, dont murder me.

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Also he has a character named "Darkstar" which is the name of another Dead song.

I;d say GRRM is almost certainly huge fan. He comes from that era and was part of the countercultural movement. Although I haven't read any of GRRM's non-ASOIAF writings, I read descriptions of them:

Wildcards: Martin's contribution to this series features a superhero with armor shaped like a Volkswagen beetle. VW beetles and VW buses are the favorite vehicles of Deadheads everywhere

The Armageddon Rag: the plot and charaters are centered around the 60s music scene and the murder of a rock promoter who one managed legendary 60s rock bands

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Interesting that the dire wolf in the song is described as 600 pounds. It's bugged me that the "direwolves" in the book are described as pony-sized when they were no bigger than modern gray wolves (big dog sized, no more than 200 pounds). I made a post suggesting some other extinct animals that could fit the role. 600 pounds IS pony sized (usually 500-800 pounds).


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Interesting that the dire wolf in the song is described as 600 pounds. It's bugged me that the "direwolves" in the book are described as pony-sized when they were no bigger than modern gray wolves (big dog sized, no more than 200 pounds). I made a post suggesting some other extinct animals that could fit the role. 600 pounds IS pony sized (usually 500-800 pounds).

I think that's just Martin taking artistic liberties. I'm sure he knows that dire wolves were hardly any larger than gray wolves, but in a fantasy story, a pony-sized wolf with magical powers is a lot cooler. Just my $.02

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Well GRRM basically confirmed it in an interview. He is (or was) a Grateful Dead fan. I also found another nod to the GD yesterday.



AFFC Spoiler:





When Sam & Gilly sail away from the wall with Maester Aemon (and that punk singer), and when Maester Aemon finally reveals to a clueless Sam why Gilly is so disconsolate, he grows exasperated with Sam's complete obliviousness/naivite and says:



"You have two good eyes, but you still don't see" or something very close to that.



This is a near direct quote from the song Casey Jones.



That plus the Dire Wolves, Weirwoods, Darkstar, Mountains of the Moon are all nod to the GD




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Well GRRM basically confirmed it in an interview. He is (or was) a Grateful Dead fan. I also found another nod to the GD yesterday. (...)

Well, it's not quite literary within the scope of the 1st book, is it? Take a bit of a research about the spoiler tag. ;)

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Well, Soft Cell had a song called "Sex Dwarf" in 1981, so GRRM must therefore also be giving a nod to Soft Cell.




Seriously, you'll find all sorts of connections in books as long as the ASOIAF series. Unless they're confirmed by the author, they're in the eye of the beholder.


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Well, Soft Cell had a song called "Sex Dwarf" in 1981, so GRRM must therefore also be giving a nod to Soft Cell.

Seriously, you'll find all sorts of connections in books as long as the ASOIAF series. Unless they're confirmed by the author, they're in the eye of the beholder.

:seems legit: But in the Soft Cell song you are referring to, a "sex dwarf" is a reference to a actual prostitute of short stature, whereas Tyrion would have sex with prostitutes, none of which were dwarfs.
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